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Tuesday, October 29, 2013

The Season of Harvest of Genealogical data

Good to see you in this season of great joy in  ... ahh ... well .... harvesting.... Genealogical data.
The fall is the season of harvest and it seems to be what I am doing.
One of the best things I ever did as I began to harvest information about our Meyer family tree was to join the Hannover mailing list through roots web. There are many one can join and I browsed quite a few too. And asked my silly beginner questions. Without having asked them; How would I  have learned. They were important ones for my skill building.

I'll show you what I mean:
In 2003 I asked about the place Radenbeck in Germany and Hans Peter Albers responded and helped, because we were not to be too wordy on the list he also sent emails. This is the meat of his response. I've not forgotten this.
Radenbeck is that one you reach by 21401 Thomasburg, OT Radenbeck
In an elderly peace of family researching work: Borstelmann, Heinrich: Familien-kunde des alten Amtes Lüne, Lüneburg 1935,I found in this Radenbeck the following mentioning of inhabitants, which theauthor took from tax-lists and other official documents. So you can´t expectdates of birth, death and marriages, but you get hints for further research.Meyer, Meier, Meyger mentioned for 21401 Radenbeck with date of mentioning:
1450: de Meyger, H. ( the last "H." stands for Höfner)1776: Jürgen Meyer1785: Jürgen Hinr.,Hh.;ehem. Jacob Sommer ("Hh." means Halbhöfner and the added
"ehem. Jacob Sommer" says, that he took over a half, means a small one, farm from this Jacob Sommer1791 und 1795: Jürgen Chr., Krüger (Krüger means he had and Inn, was allowed to sell drinks, engage musicians, etc., in short words, he hold the place for feasts)
As you see, up to know there is yet no name: Heinrich Christoph Meyer. That is
not astonishing, if he was not the eldest one, or that one who overtook the place
of his father. I think, there must be good chance, to find the date of birth of
your Heinrich Christoph Meyer in the Church Book of Thomasburg (Evangelische
Kirchengemeinde, 21401 Thomasburg.

So You see even in 1450 there were Meyer and Sommer there. Somewhere I saw the name Luhmann too with the name Sommer. Somehow I think our M & M in fairmont Minnesota who told me many names and places must have seen that book of Borstelmann, and maybe Dr. Raven. that hold clues to our ancestors. I still want one of those books. Who knows what more clues it holds.

Later I started a blog a\to hold our information all together.  I remember in the year of 2008 I said I had taken Herr Albers advice and wrote to the Thomasburg church. I also had written to the deacon of Bleckede or Neetze. The deacon had responded that he doubted I would get a response. And I never did. I should have wrote again, but I didn't. Now it never hurts to write to the pastors online of these churches for advice and then follow it. I know the Nahrendorf church set up a private email name for me, which I admit I forgot cause I lost that email account that I had that held those letters.

So since 2008 until now in 2013 and even 2003 its taken me eight years to get some information.  I must say though if you have the money to invest in this valuable undertaking it would be a good way to go. Write to the church and or hire someone to go to the hannover archives. Then send them a donation and even include some working money for the effort.  Even better go yourself. You'll love yourself for going.

The other info:
a second time, same subject Meyer von Radenbeck,
dear gutt morgen,
found a newer work, revisiting almost the same documents as the author Borstel-
mann respecting by this the meantime progress in historical science:
Horst-Dieter Freiherr von Enzberg/Dietmar Gehrke: Aus der Vergangenheit der
Dörfer der Samtgemeinde Ostheide. Von den Anfängen bis in das 19.Jahrhundert,
Samtgemeinde Ostheide (Hrsg.),Barendorf 2001
There I found Meyer in Radenbeck:
1723: Dieterich Meyer, : ein Köthner, nach Scharnebeck abgabenpflichtig
1756 und 1760 Meyer : this is a comparision before and during, respectivlely
after the "Siebenjähriger Krieg", which was von 1756 to
1763, and says, this Meyer had before, 1 male worker(son
or farm hand), 1 female farmworker, 2 horses, 6 oxes and
20 acre land, afterwards it remained 1 female worker, 2
horses, 6 oxes , and 20 acre land. that means there were
2 workers lost. The other people lost in most cases more
than this Meyer.
1825: Heinrich Dieterich Meyer, Halbhöfner, 231 Morgen Land
Jürgen Hinrich Meyer, Halbhöfner, 184 Morgen Land
Claus Jürgen Meyer, Anbauer, 13 Morgen Land
That`s, wath i can tell you in the moment,
best wishes Hans Peter Albers


For further reading I suggest:
Neetze chronicle
http://www.meyer-grlafferde.homepage.t-online.de/r1914.htm
The gedbas of owners of surnames who lived Radenbeck
Also suggest Barendorf chronicles or chronik.

Other families  trees with Meyer or others  in Radenbeck:
Kinderkandt in Texas
Maleyka
Martha Hicks
Townstedt - Texas
Thiele- Germany Ventschau

Historical "Orts familienkunde" Book Facts Were Memorable


Long ago I found out this detail  below in  some Historical books about Radenbeck hof owners and  Köthners.  After  I learned this  back then, I forever  wondered if it was our Meyer family there  or if our Heinrich Christoph Meyer  family  at some point moved there from somewhere else..

..1723: Dieterich Meyer, : ein Köthner, nach Scharnebeck abgabenpflichtig
1756 und 1760 Meyer    : this is a comparision before and during, respectivlely 
                         after the "Siebenjähriger Krieg", which was von 1756 to 
                         1763, and says, this Meyer had before, 1 male worker(son 
                         or farm hand), 1 female farmworker, 2 horses, 6 oxes and 
                         20 acre land, afterwards it remained 1 female worker, 2 
                         horses, 6 oxes , and 20 acre land. that means there were 
                         2 workers lost. The other people lost in most cases more 
                         than this Meyer.
1825: Heinrich Dieterich Meyer, Halbhöfner, 231 Morgen Land
      Jürgen Hinrich Meyer, Halbhöfner, 184 Morgen Land
      Claus Jürgen Meyer, Anbauer, 13 Morgen Land

It  Google Translates to this:
...1723: Dieterich Meyer : a Köthner , after Scharnebeck dutiable
1756 and 1760 Meyer: this is a comparision before and during , respectivlely
                         after the " Seven Years War " , Which was from 1756 to
                         1763 , and says , Meyer had this before , one male worker ( but
                         or farmhand ), 1 female farm worker , 2 horses , and oxes 6
                         20 acre land, afterwards it Remained one female worker , 2
                         horses , oxes 6 , and 20 acre country . Means did therewere
                         2 workers lost . The other people lost in most cases more
                         Meyer than this .
1825 : Henry Dieterich Meyer, Halbhöfner , 231 acres of land
      Jürgen Hinrich Meyer, Halbhöfner , 184 acres of land
      Claus Jürgen Meyer, Anbauer , 13 acres of land

Genealogy Document of Dietrich Meyer the Father of Johann Jürgen Meyer


Dietrich Meyer's birth must have been around  1645 plus or minus a year.  You do the math. If he died at age 61 years old and buried in 1706 then that subtracts to 1645.



Johann Jürgen Meyer, * Born  1691. Vater Dietrich Meyer

Johann Jürgen Meyer, * Born  1691. Vater Dietrich Meyer


Dietrich Meyer Genealogy Record of Death

Dietrich Meyer's death
Aus  Radenbeck Jahr- 1706

Dietrich Meyer, 61 years, † 28.03.1706 Radenbeck

A member of The Sommer Family of Radenbeck Joins the Meyer Family History

You may have read the previous blog post about the marriage of Johann Juergen Meyer to Catharine Sommers  from Radenbeck by Thomasburg.





Heiraten mit  Catharine Sommers aus Radenbeck, 13.10.1719


Heiraten mit  Catharine Sommers aus Radenbeck, 13.10.1719


More on the Meyer Family Tree

Help Me Interpret this. 

Meyer church Documents

It seems that the father of  Johann Jürgen Meyer ~ 09.08.1727 Neetze is another Johann Jürgen Meyer * 1691 whose father is a Dieterich Meyer. The bride of this Johan Juergen Meyer  * 1691 is  Catharine Sommers aus Radenbeck.
Marriage 13.10.1719

The Marriage record of the Father Johann Jürgen Meyer mit Anne Margarethe Meyer - Genealogy Marriage record



Now this page facts might bother you as much as it bothers me.The facts was given to me as data   information
of the marriage of the Father Johann  Jürgen Meyer in the year 1737.  The father being Johan Jürgen Meyer of son Hinrich Christoph Meyer or Meier of Radenbeck. The bride is Anne Margarethe Meyer. The problem is  that the year of marriage is said to be 1737.   Remember his birth is shown  to be in the year of 1727.  I'll have to let you know more about this little fact, after I spend a little time on it


Meyer church document


Marrriage of the Father Johann Jürgen Meyer 1737 mit Anne Margarethe Meyer
Marriage of the Father Johann Jürgen Meyer 1737 mit Anne Margarethe Meyer

Monday, October 28, 2013

Baptism of the father Johann Jürgen Meier, father of Hinrich Christoph Meier, Meyer

From now on it could get a little confusing with so many Johan Juergen Meyer names occurring  in the family tree.

Baptism at  Neetze
Johann Jürgen Meyer ~ 09.08.1727 Neetze


Johann Jürgen Meyer ~ 09.08.1727 Neetze
Johann Jürgen Meyer ~ 09.08.1727 Neetze

Please Help me find my errors. Feel free to correct me.

Birth Genealogy Data information about Hinrich Christoph Meyer, Meier


Heinrich Or Hinrich Christoph Meier, Meyer, the father of Johan Jürgen Meyer

Christoph Hinrich Meyer * 13.02.1744 Radenbeck. 
Christoph Hinrich Meyer * 13.02.1744  zu Radenbeck.
Father :  Johann Jürgen Meyer Schäfer in Radenbeck

His birth: 13.Feb.1744 Radenbeck, Thomasburg in what is known now as  Lüneburg stadt in Lower Saxony area of Germany.. It helps to follow a chart like the one shown here. His occupation is Schäfer like his son.


Radenbeck, Thomasburg

Meier, Meyer Family tree of Radenbeck, from church books of Thomasburg


Good day to you family and fellow readers.  I share fantastic news and with great pride the photo of  the document of the baptism of our Johann  Jürgen Meyer from the church of Thomasburg. Our old copy of his birth says he was born August 15th 1772. But now we see he is said to have born on the 14th of August.
 Notice the fantastic sight of his mothers name  Margretha Elisabeth geb. Müllern.  Perhaps it  could be Müller,.  I'll have to check  further on that.

Johan Juergen Meyer Baptism at Thomasburg
Johan Juergen Meyer Meier Baptism at Thomasburg
Getaufte vom Jahr 1772
16ten Aug: 1772
Eltern
5) Hinrich Christoph: Meier Schäfer zu Radenbeck, und dessen Ehefrau Margretha Elisabeth geb. Müllern, haben ein ihren d 14ten dieses geborens Söhnlein  taufen, und es Johann Jürgen nennen laßen.
 Die Gevattern sind gewesen
1) Johan Valentin Meier Schäfer zu Wennekath.
2) Hans Jürgen Meier Dienstknecht zu Radenbek.



Meyer  family  from the Village of Radenbeck bei Thomasburg church 
It is a fantastic sight. It takes me a little time to  get used to it.
Stay tune for more like this. 

Monday, August 5, 2013

Genealogy familiennamen SCHROEDER, SEIL, iLLINOIS AND iOWA fAMILY HISTORY


FOR YOUR INFORMATION AND ENJOYMENT I SHARE THIS ARTICLE



I received this from a local volunteer in Iowa and later it was shared by one of the family. I would give credit to this, if I knew exactly where it came. I would say from a local paper, but more than likely from one of the books. Calhoun county has a great local history book with biographical accounts of citizens and Greene county does as well. I might have this on another page.

Jo Meyer arootdigger

This is my content so scrapers and bloggers hands off!

Friday, June 14, 2013

What Do I Do Now?

Good day readers.


I suppose it gets old for you readers when I post my little blog problems. I have to today, just to seek advice and help.  Today I am telling you I  seem to have a duplicate address with a minor change. However,  it's still coming from the main address. right now I am posting to the blog with the changed address.

At the moment I don't know what to do. google could shut me down because of duplicate material. so maybe I should shut myself down temporarily.
I have AdSense at the side, and not sure how to go about canceling the program without repercussions. I never made a cent to my account cause I didn't finish the forms.

reading and keeping track of  my overview  and readers;  I notice it's often changed somehow to track my own views. An it been searched by this link and I looked  r-e-f-e-r-e-r here at this link not enabled - http://r-e-f-e-r-e-r.cxx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referer_spam
At one time I looked further and there was just an ad under one audience address. I can't say they are the reason for my  troubles.
Oh golly why does there have to be people like that  in this world. people who have to make it off of your own hard work.
I need some answers.and heres the question.

What do I do now?

So readers I could use a little help and advice.



Also I hope You  all have a good fathers day weekend.!

Sunday, March 17, 2013

Linked to a Irish Tall Tale at A Rootdiggers Sunnyside Blog


Tis a Good day  I bid you. on St. Paddies day. If you wish to hear my Irish tall tale click the picture below and it will take you to my tall tale.
From vintage moth via pininterest

It makes no sense to me why a  german descendant would be convrersing as if she was of Irish descent. but it's done,  so there you have it.
I know so little how the Irish conversed in fairy tales, but I tried. It helped a little to be watching some old Irish movies on Amc tv. In one of them they used thee and thou?? Not sure if that should be the case.  Forgive my errors. Genne Alogist

Source:
From vintage moth via pininterest



Saturday, March 16, 2013

New Dates and Places in Luhmann Lumann file

Genealogy - Family History of Meyer, Luhmann and Reincecke Families


Surnames:  Reinecke, Reineke, Burmester, Burmeister, Tollschnibbe, Brese, Luhmann, Seisselberg, Meyer

Ort:  Eichdorf, Oldendorf, Duebbekold, Tosterglope,  Kohval, Moislingen, Poimmoissel, Nuedlitz, Metzingen, Ventschau, Hitzacker, Nieperfitz, Nahrendorf






Luhmman, Reinecke  church file






















I thought I 'd get around to sharing the  arootdigger document from Oldendorf with  Dahlenburg, Nahrendorf church archives researched records. Hah, Good,   I  did finally get that done.
The  Luhmann/ Lumann dates and place  changes of their family ancestral history..


Notice that Ms. Mertens father was correct in the previous spelling of the Luhmann name.

Enjoy


Luck of the Draw Story of Luck of a STILLE Find Victory


I had the good luck to find my 
Katharina Margarethe Elisabeth Meyer -- Stille.

That's right. I said I found her in living in Germany 1919 after all that searching in Illinois yesterday.

Go ahead and give me praise it will  feel good.!

Sometimes winning is bittersweet. Don't you agree.
Sometimes it's a victory you didn't  really  earn by hard labor at the moment it happens. Actually I have put time into my search.On and off searches for her with very little to go on.

To make a long story short all I needed was very little information after all. Just her new surname and her birth date. Ancestry.com supplied the rest.
yup. I can say that it was that easy that day after finishing my  post yesterday.

The birth date was fresh in mind not confused by any other's date. I clicked my searching process and was about to click on family tree once I had advanced to that stage and there it was the entry of her name and birth date at census of  Mecklenburg  Ludwigslust- born or in that case Geb.-  2.2.1842 at Eichdorf. which I figured was mine at Lueneburg stadt in Niedersachen.  What luck right. Must be that early st Paddies day coming my way. Normally I would pass over as I cuss the census of Mecklenburg cause it's usually not for me and the first thing I have to get through in order to get to the rest. also most often I find it as error on others pages cause when you enter in Bleckede, it gives you Bleckede Ludwigslust. People who don't know any better select it.

She was Living 1919 at Dömitz Doemitz, Mecklenburg with husband Henry or Heinrich STILLE. Census taken just after W.W.1.  He was born 12 Okt.1839 in Dömitz, Ludwigslust.
Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Germany 1919 census.
Follow up census is 1900,1890, and  1867. I saw they had  one child Wilhelmeine age o. They  were suppose to have been married around 1867. It may take me awhile to get used to viewing two forms for one year. On another one there  was   a Heinrich STILLE head of household for Domitz,  stadt Domitz too, with three children without birth dates. Minna, a Marie and one other girl [Margarete I think].. But can't call it yet.  Nothing in Family Trees category so far.

The Moral of my story. Don't wish away something you might cuss at the moment cause it just might be really good for you after all. [That is the conflict of my story- Because I must have overlooked and ignored it without knowing I had]  [IF IT HADN'T SAID  GEB. EICHDORF i WOULD HAVE OVERLOOKED IT AGAIN!.]
When I know I am going to be really busy with housework or some big project in the next oncoming weeks that is when the luck of the draw falls my way.
.
I  do have good luck.
My happy ending to my story


Note:
I also searched   and saw surnames at that region - Mosel and Drinkhahn because Boizenburg was also given as city once so I ran it through. I am going to browse here  for my Meyer and the Dor Meyer Koenig here too.

Friday, March 15, 2013

U.S. Cities Directories at Ancestry.com; Margarethea Meyer Stile



map of  burned Chicago, Illinois;   Fire 1871 - This image  is in the public domain because its copyright has expired.

 For my post today keep in mind that there is One thing that  hinders our research is the lack of census for our ancestral Illinois inhabitants.

Upon learning that many valuable documents were lost in the Great Chicago fire, I have had to appreciate what is out there for use to fill in the gaps and I think these directories help do that  along with the vitals of Birth, Death, Marriages and  followups checking census on their moves to other regions. Such as census of Reading Iowa to register the time of move and birth  and marriages of  their children.


I wanted to post today to share my great find. Actually a double find which is  an aide for the other in my research .
First find- 
  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Great_Chicago_Fire_map.jpg
Yes it's a wonderful colorized map of the region of Illinois  that burned  Oct.,10,1871. It concerns me because I still search for a Margret Stiles or Stille,  [Geb.  February 02, 1842.];  whom maybe perished during the fire.

Second main find
Ancestry.com delux  carries some U.SA. city  directories.. My interest  of course for Stile  lies in Chicago in the map area.  It was Not  the only place I happened to discover it, I saw it  while looking into the Heinrich Dohrman tree who lived in Will county, Illinois about 1870. Directories listed a few years for maybe  him all the way to 1885 or 6. The thing is even though I was researching for Joliet, Will county Illinois, it was showing content for Chicago for others on the page. So why Not swing that way. [My Adhd is no problem for me!!]

 It wasn't long before I was using the directories  for more  unsolved people from my Meyer family tree book inserts .As I said,  I left the tree family history research of  Dohrmann, with the  Frotscher, Vogel, Seil  who were suppose to live near by and  I moved on to Stille.

I copied  down a few names for Stiehl, Stile, Stiles, and Stille. And checking 1870 census closely. Double checking who was missing the following years of the male Stiles. All different locations. In a fragment of a memory of something ol' M&M said once, the location Des Plaines, Illinois  jumped out at me.
And remembering this might give a hint that our Margret Meyer Stiles died :

Always Helpful Ancestry link says "Generally a city directory will contain an alphabetical list of citizens, listing the names of the heads of households, their addresses, and occupational information. Sometimes a wife's name will be listed in parentheses or italics following the husband's. Other helpful information might include death dates for individuals who had been listed in the previous year's directory, names of partners in firms, and forwarding addresses or post offices for people who had moved to another town"

There was one Elizabeth who probably came from Hesse Cassel and maybe born 1823. Not mine. Need to check this Elizabeth Stiles  in detail further.

Search > Schools, Directories & Church Histories > City & Area Directories > U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta)

 More time is needed to return to this with  Katharina Margarethe Elisabeth, Geb.  February 02, 1842.  birth in mind. She's the only Margarete  that is mentioned as a child  of  Juergen Friedrich Meyer family History. 
Remember the Meyer book rarely mentioned the children of his second marriage, only that I know of in His sons obituary. There was a list of  sister siblings of Fred and William Meyer, but no exact information other than Margarete marrying  a Stiles or Stille.Stille  who could in fact be from Norway or Sweden. Who knows?.

There is always new information being introduced at Ancestry.com. More and more work is done with Graves stones such as Find a Grave and Rabbit- Grave resources. I must definitely pursue cemeteries again.


Sources:  
-http://arootdigger.blogspot.com/
-http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Great_Chicago_Fire_map.jpg
Original Domain  Of map has expired.- This image is a derivative work of the following images:
File:1869_chicago.jpg licensed with PD-old 2005-08-12T08:01:34Z SPUI 4902x6376 (9280310 Bytes) {{PD}} 1869 map of Chicago from [http://www.davidrumsey.com/ davidrumsey.com]. [[Category:Maps of Chicago]]  Uploaded atWiki link with derivativeFX

-Ancestry.com Source Information: 
Ancestry.com. U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta) [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: Original sources vary according to directory. The title of the specific directory being viewed is listed at the top of the image viewer page. Check the directory title page image for full title and publication information.
About U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta):
This database is a collection of directories for U.S. cities and counties in various years. The database currently contains directories for all states except Alaska.





Notes about my research with the directories and family names: 
- I  also pursued and copied down potential names of  Seil's witnesses for his naturalization.- Meissenger, and Shaw hoping to see Seil mention the same year. More time needed about 1879 and 1880.
- Later on , I might even check the fire  that roared in Pestigo, Wisconsin at the same time.in 1871 for any Stille or Meyer info.



Tuesday, March 5, 2013

My new available email





I hate to miss your valuable family information or your personal comments pertaining to the wonderful field of family Genealogy.
Lately, I seem to have some hitch hikers hitching  a ride. So for the time being I have eliminated the  ability to comment.even though it spoils it for the rest of you. But if you like just email me at my new email account and If you want it as a  comment  I'll post it myself.
~~~~~~~~~~  meyerheritageatgmail.com ~~~~~~~~~

Monday, February 25, 2013

Kinder Juergen Friedrich Meyer und Luhmann Tree











































To see it larger, click it and then open it in another page.At least that is the way I am able to see it with my xp windows program. What your seeing above is the church document from the Nahrendorf church listing the children or Kinder of Juergen Friedrich Meyer and Catharina Margarethea Luhmann. This last one 2[1] is continued kinder child 6, 7 and 8. into a second page. I had not been told before about the last birth. It comes as no surprise as lead to the cause of her death.. What I love about this is the extra information involving their spouses. And their deaths. Child No. 6 - Dorothea Elisabeth Meyer was married to Holldorf, Carl Friedrich Gustav.

Luhmann, Lumann, Meyer familienforschung



To enlarge this for viewing click it and then after you have done that try putting it in another tab.

I realize that my Meyer Luhmann familienforschung is further back in the ,blog posts. around 2008. The search for our Meyer and then Lumann  family history work was don at the archives of Dahlenburg and  Nahrendorf was done by angel in Uelzen. Now going over  the church information  that I received last year I have noticed some changes in the information. So lets start with an attachment   file of  familienforschung for Juergen Friedrich Meyer and his wife Catharina Margaretha Luhmann who lived at Eichdorf and Oldendorf in Prussia.
I hope the view of the file works for you. I had particularly asked if they could supply hints for residence.  It was not  the specific  place in the village that I was hoping to find.  But it is helpful. all the same.  Notice  the attention to the fact that Juergen Friedrich Meyer lived at Röthen  at the time he married Ahrens. You'll have to check older blogs  to see those png  files.

I hope your interested in the updates I have on the Luhmann family history ancestry. I should be posting that png file very soon. Remind me if it doesn't come in a day or two.

Source:
Herr Bock family  history researcher at the Nahrendorf Dahlenburg church archives.
.Pfarr- Nahrendorf, Luneburg stadt, Niedersachen, Germany.
/http://www.kirche-nahrendorf.de/

Monday, January 21, 2013

Second Child of Meyer / Ahrens - Anna Louise Auguste Meyer

Anna Louise Auguste Meyer must have had a short but,  nice life.
Like my mother she was a twin that lived to adulthood without the other. This particular child lived long enough to be godmother herself and   to be a source of the  name  for  our Anna Meyer Bennett. According to the highlighted  material below Anna Louise Auguste married  Hermann Heinrich Wilhelm Haul, a schuhmacher in Oldendorf. She almost made it to 28 years  of age.  She probably had children,  and more than likely it was a double childs birth that took her life.  We should try and get those family history tree records. Maybe we can find some of the Haul family in the area.



2- Kind MEYER, Anna Louise Auguste Meyer (F)
Birth: *12.07.1859  Röthen = Nahrendorf
 ~ 18.07.1859  ~   Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Taufregister ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf.
Nr. 27/1859 -Röthen-
MEYER, Anna Louise Auguste geb. den zwölften Juli.  Nachmittags zwie Uhr.
Eltern : Parkwärter  Jürgen Friedrich Meyer zu Röthen und dessen Ehefrau Katharine Dorothea  geborene  Ahrens.  Get. den  18. Juli. 1859.

Taufzeugen :
1. Charlotte Marie  Louise Müller.  Hauswirthstochter zu  Nahrendorf.
2. Anna  Karoline Augustc GRUMMER.  unverehelicht zu  Roethen.   NR. 27 und 28. sind Zwillinge.

Vermerk :  Getr. 4.1.1885 in Nahrendorf  { (Nr. 2/1885}  mit. HAUL, Hermann Heinrich Wilhelm  Schuhmacher in Oldendorf.

Death :  + 12.03. 1887 Oldendorf - Nahrendorf
Burial :  [] 14.3.1887 Nahrendorf.
Äuszug aus dem Beerdigungsregister  der ev.-1uth. Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf.  Nr. 6/ 1887.
HAUL, Anna Louise Auguste. geb. Meyer. Ehefrau zu  Oldendorf. 27 jahre  8 Monathe alt. gest. am.12. März.1887 bcgr. am 14.März.1887

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Note: I have had the church records to these twins before I knew they actually were our on Juergen Friedrich Meyer's family history tree  [I had my suspicions,  let me tell you.] 
Each time I get a duplicate record of family members there are usually facts that are different than the others.
 I  can live with it. But I need to point  out those  particular discrepancies as I go along.

The Discrepancies on this page.
1- I am wondering if the name Grummer is correct I am  recalling the name Grummet.
I'll get back to this. I need to locate pages etc.  later.

You all have a good day.

Friday, January 18, 2013

Meyer/ Ahrens Taufzeugen in Nahrendorf




Were continuing on  with the Meyer,  Ahrens Family Tree  History Mini Series.- Second Marriage


Yesterday I published the post on Catharine Dorothea Ahrens the second wife with Juergen Friedrich Meyer [geb 1814] To save space and time I will say that all their births  were at Röthen and  they were all baptized at Nahrendorf.  Above is a  copy of the document of the Meyer / Ahrens  Family History tree  from the Nahrendorf church that you can actually read.  I am not sure why it was printed out so faint. So, My son came to my rescue and separated the pages into smaller parts and most of all, he  made them so we could read  them. Today I 'm just interested in the Gevattern or Taufzeugen for each child. Eventually more comments about the person will happen.

Meyer / Ahrens Children 
1.   The first child was stillborn. No name.


11.Anna Louise Auguste Meyer. The twins were  baptized the same day 18.07.1859 Nahrendorf.
--Nr. 27 und 28 sind Zwillinge.
-- Nr. 27/ 1859 Born Röthen;  baptized at Nahrendorf
Gevatern : or Taufzeugen :
1.) Charlotte Marie Louise Müller - Hauswirthstochter zu Nahrendorf.
2.) Anna Karoline Auguste GRUMMER - unverehelicht zu Roethen / then . [I thought I had read a different version of this birth record before that said the name was Grummet]


111.Louise Marie Dorothea Meyer- [Nr. 27 und 28 sind Zwillinge.]
--- Nr.28/ 1859   born Röthen = Nahrendorf~ 18.07.1859.
Taufzeugen :
1.) Ehefrau des Anbauers SCHMIDT,  Marie Elisabeth geborene WOLTER zu Oldendorf.
2.) Ehefrau des Hauslers MICHELS,  Dorothea Margaretha geborene AHRENS zu Oldendorf.  [She may be listed at the link.]


1V.Ida Marie Elise  Meyer born then  and baptized 30.11.1862 Nahrendorf church.
Taufzeugen :
1.) Ehefrau des Hauswirths SEMMEROTH, , Katherine Dorothea Elisabeth geborene WILLHUS  in Oldendorf.
2.) Ehefrau des Hauswirths Ahrens,  Marie Friederike geborene BLIESCH in Mücklingen.
3.) Ehefrau des Revierförsters Kommert, Juliane Marie  geborene WEINSCHENK in Röthen in  the Göhrde.


V.Adolph Heinrich Friedrich Meyer born  Röthen baptized Nahrendorf 10.06. 1864. 
--Nr. 25/1864.
Taufzeugen :
1.) Hauswirth Jurgen Heinrich LUEHMANN  from Eichdorf.
2.) Hauswirth Johann Friedrich AHRENS in Mücklingen.


V1.Hermann Rudolph  Friedrich  Meyer born Roethen, baptized  21.04.1867 Nahrendorf.
--Nr. 13/1867.
Taufzeugen :
1.) Hauswirthsohn Hermann Johann Heinrich AHRENS in Mücklingen / Muecklingen.
2.) Häusler Johann Heinrich Friedrich MICHELS in Oldendorf.


V11. Emilie Margaretha Dor. Meyer,  born Roethen. baptized 03.11.1868 in Nahrendorf church.
--Nr. 39/1868.
Taufzeugen :
1.) Häuslersfrau  Catharina Dorothea SCHULZ,  geborene  HAUL. [One of the twins married a Haul of Oldendorf. ]
2.) Häuslersfrau Margaretha Dorothea  MICHELS, geborene AHRENS. beide in Oldendorf.


I don't know about you, but I am tickled Pink to see more Taufzeugen or Godparent names. It will be fun to see how they all fit into the Meyer, Ahrens family history tree.

Meyer Ahrens Family Tree History - Mini Series -Second Marriage

I am all Tickled Tingly Pink.
Welcome back for a new day and a new Post.  Today I am happy to share more of the Mini series of the Meyer and  Ahrens family tree history. I always get tickled pink when I get new lists of Gevattern  or god parents for  my individuals and this time the names ring familiar.    Are you  ready to get all pink and tingly?   So here goes. 

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Juergen Friedrich Meyer made a second marriage to  Catharina Dorothea Ahrens.

AHRENS, Catharina Dorothea  (F) ev.
* 31.03.1827  = Nahrendorf Muecklingen
~ 02.04.1827 Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Taufregister der ev.-Luth Kirchen gemeinde Nahrendorf.  Nr. 12/1827.
Ahrens, Catharina Dorothea geborene in Muecklingen  am 31 Marz mittags 11 1/2 Uhr. getauft den. 21 ten april.
Eltern:  Johann Heinrich Ahrens, Hauswirth in Mucklingen and Catharina Dorothea Elisabeth geb. SEIL.

Gevattern: 
1. ) Anna Catharina AHRENS - altentheilerinn, des Kindes Grossmutter.
2. ) Magdalena Dorothea STECKELBERG -  verwitwete Hauslerinn zu Nahrendorf.
3. ) Catharina Margarethea STECKELBERG - Kuhirten Frau zu Breese.

+ 16.03.1890 Oldendorf =  Nahrendorf.
+  [] 19.03.1890 Nahrendorf.
Auszug aus dem Beerdigungsregister der ev,-Luth Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf Nr. 1/1890.
Meyer, Katharine Dorothea geborene AHRENS witwe in Oldendorf. 62 Jahre 11 Monat 13 Tag.

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That's all of the church record about her for the time being. I  want to post her children soon. 

However your not off Scott free yet. There are  still small details  to be discussed.  I  wonder if you noticed the small changes in her name. They usually have that  first name of three names  that they don't really use. But we were only given two.   Sometimes she was Katharine and other times labeled Catharine and Catharina and the 'C' and  'K '  letter changed from time to time. I tried to give exactly what I saw in the  church record.
You may have noticed in the marriage document of the trauregister she was  formally Katharine Dorothea Ahrens and so her mother was Katharine Dorothea Elisabeth  too. Later when it mentioned her baptism and her death she was Catharina just as her mother was Catharina. In regards to the mother they always included her third in the line of  names -  Elisabeth. 

It's interesting too that Catharina  is in the names of the  Godmothers  or Godmutter.  Notice the intermix of the name Magdalena and Margaretha.

I never miss a chance to point out [ wink] this connection to the Rosseburg tree as I give you page 1 link.  and the all important marriage - 
5. *20.3.1828 Johann Jürgen Heinrich MICHELS,
-oo md. 11.10.1857 Margareta Dorothea AHRENS, aus Mücklingen* 
If I am trapping  you here, I might as well make it good, so here's the other  important link.  Eventually I'll help you with that. Up at the left side of the page 72 from Heinrich Borstelmann's book about the hofs of Mucklingen you will see HalbHof 5.  Down on the line of the year 1815 we find the Eh. zw. which is the marriage of her parents.  [I suppose it goes with out saying all the references to Seil in Breese that we can do without now.] Without church proof we see more of their family history. Something I can't get into right now.

Nope, no more.  Your free to move on. Please come back and I will tickle you again. In one of the posts I will relay to you some of the children's godparents / Gevattern  whom are  usually family. As always feel free to ask questions, give comments that we can use here. 



Sources:   The church document from Nahrendorf church archives via Herr Bock. More of it is still coming.

 Only I arootdigger has these documents and there fore no other should have it but family. If you want to copy for your own purpose as a family member ask me. No other should have this on the internet.





Thursday, January 17, 2013

Meyer and Ahrens Family Tree History Mini series -

I guess this part of the church records has something to do with Juergen Friedrich Meyer [ geb 1814]  the wedding and wedding banns at the Nahrendorf Church in regards to his future wife Katharine Dorothea Ahrens.  It explains that his first wife died 30.April.1856. Still More on Katharine Dorothea Ahrens  family tree history to come.


MEYER, Jürgen Friedrich,  a Parkwarden at Rothen.
2. OO - Eh.
02.10.1857  Nahrendorf.
Auszug aus dem Trauregister des eve. Luth. Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf Nr. 7/1857.
Meyer, Jürgen Friedrich,   wittwer,    Parkwärter  zu Röthen geb. den 29.Nov.1814 zu Neetzendorf.
Eltern or Parents :  Schäfer Johann Jürgen Meyer  und dessen Ehefrau Marie Elisabeth geborene Behrens.
mit
AHRENS, Katharine Dorothea, unverehelicht Mücklingen geb den 31.Marz.1827 zu Mücklingen
Eltern or Parents :  Hauswirth  Johann Heinrich AHRENS und  dessen Ehefrau  Katharine Dorothea Elisabeth geborene SEIL.  Angeblicher Künftiger wohnort : Parkwärter wohnung zu Röthen  Aufgeboten zu Nahrendorf den 20 und 27 Sept.1857, getr. den zweiten Oct.1857 zu Nahrendorf Bemerkungen. Die frühere Ehefrau des Brautigams Katharine Margarethe geborene Luhmann.   ist am 30.april.1856 Gestorben.

If it helps at all here is a Google translation: .
Second OO - Eh. [Second marriage for my Juergen  Friedrich Meyer.
02.10.1857 Nahrendorf.
Extract from the marriage register of the eve.-Luth. Parish Nahrendorf   Nr. 7 / 1857th
Meyer, Jürgen Friedrich, wittwer, parking attendants to the Röthen born 29.Nov.1814 to Neetzendorf.
Parents or Parents: Johann  Jürgen Meyer, a sheep herder,  and his wife Marie Elisabeth nee Behrens. with
AHRENS, Katharine Dorothea unmarried, 31, born Mücklingen Marz.1827 to Mücklingen..
Parents: Hauswirth Johann Heinrich Ahrens and his wife Katharine Dorothea Elisabeth nee Seil.  Alleged Future residence: Park warden apartment to Röthen On Nahrendorf offered to the 20 and 27 Sept.1857, sep. Oct.1857 to the second wife of the former remarks Nahrendorf bridegroom Katharine Margarethe born Luhmann. Died on 30.April.1856..


Note :
- Kunftiger Wohnort = future place of resident.
-Aufgeboten zu Nahrendorf =   Banned [Banns] in Nahrendorf.
-Getraut [married] the second Oct.1857, remarks:  the former wife of the groom Katharine Margarethe nee Luhmann is deceased the 30st April 1856.


Monday, January 14, 2013

Part-2- MEYER - Second MARRIAGE and BIRTH RECORDS


Personenstammblatt                                        V :      3
Mandant :  00-Boitze                                      25.04.12
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MEYER, Jürgen Friedrich 
Birth :  *29.Nov.1814 Neetzendorf
Death : +18-20. Sept. 1878 Rothen / Oldendorf,
Burial : [] Nahrendorf, Luneburg, Niedersachen

Marriage :  OO-  02.Oct.1857 Nahrendorf
AHRENS, Katharine Dorothea 
Birth :  *31.Mar.1827 Mücklingen
Death : +16.Mar.1890 Oldendorf an der Goehrde,
Nahrendorf.
**More on Katharine Dorothea AHRENS

Children - Kind 
1- Kind MEYER, Totgeb Nadgen. Meyer *5.Okt.1758-  ~6.Okt.1758.
2- Kind MEYER, Anna Louise Auguste Meyer (F)
Birth: *12.07.1859  Röthen = Nahrendorf
 ~ 18.07.1859  ~   Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Taufregister ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf.
Nr. 27/1859 -Röthen-
MEYER, Anna Louise Auguste geb. den zwölften Juli.  Nachmittags zwie Uhr.
Eltern : Parkwärter  Jürgen Friedrich Meyer zu Röthen und dessen Ehefrau Katharine Dorothea  geborene  Ahrens.  Get. den  18. Juli. 1859.

Taufzeugen :
1. Charlotte Marie  Louise Mü1ler.  Hauswirthstochter zu  Nahrendorf.
2. Anna  Karoline Augustc GRUMMER.  unverehelicht zu  Roethen.   NR. 27 und 28. sind Zwillinge.
Vermerk :  Getr. 4.1.1885 in Nahrendorf  { (Nr. 2/1885}  mit. HAUL, Hermann Heinrich Wilhelm  Schuhmacher in Oldendorf.
Death :  + 12.03. 1887 Oldendorf - Nahrendorf
Burial :  [] 14.3.1887 Nahrendorf.
Äuszug aus dem Beerdigungsregister  der ev.-1uth. Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf.  Nr. 6/ 1887.
HAUL, Anna Louise Auguste. geb. Meyer. Ehefrau zu  Oldendorf. 27 jahre  8 Monathe alt. gest. am.12. März.1887 bcgr. am 14.März.1887.
3. Kind MEYER, Louise Marie Dorothea (F) ev. 
* 12.01.1859 Röthen = Nahrendorf
~ 18.07. 1859 Nahrendorf.
Auszug aus dem Taufregister der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf.
Nr. 28/ 1859. Roethen  Röthen Nahrendorf.
Meyer, Louise Marie Dorothea  geb. den zwö1ften Juli. Nachmittags halb drei Uhr.
Eltern :  Parkwärter Jürgen Friedrich Meyer zu Röthen und dessen Ehefrau Katharine Dorothea geboren Ahrens. get.den 18 Juli.1859.

Taufzeugen :
1. Ehefrau des Anbauers Schmidt, Marie Elisabeth geborene WOLTER zu Oldendorf
2. Ehefrau des Häuslers MICHELS Dorothea Margaretha
geborene  AHRENS zu Oldendorf. Nr. 27. und 28 sind Zwillinge.
+  27. 07. 1859 Röthen = Nahrendorf
+  [] 29.07. 1859 Nahrendorf
Auszug Aus dem Beerdigungsregister der ev.-1uth. Kirchengemeindc  Nahrendorf. Nr. 18/ 1859 -Röthen-
 Kind MEYER, Louise Marie Dorothea, Kind zu Roethen. 15 Tage alt.
E1tern: Parkwärter Jürgen Friedrich  Meyer und dessen Ehefrau Katharine Dorothea geborene Ahrens. gest. den siebenundzwanzigsten Ju1i.  Nachmittags zwei Uhr am  Schäuerchen, begr. am 29.Juli 1859.
{Schäuerchen = kurzfristige Erkrankung}.
4. Kind MEYER, Ida Marie Elise  (F) ev.
* 02.11.1862 Rothen / Röthen = Nahrendorf
~ 30.11.1862 Nahrendorf.
Auszug aus dem Taufregister  der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf  Nr. 44/ 1862 -Röthen-
MEYER, Ida Marie Elise geb. den zweiten November Nachmittags halb ein Uhr.
Eltern: Parkwärter Jürgen Friedrich Meyer zu Röthen und dessen Ehefrau Katharine Dorothea geborene Ahrens.  get. den 30. November. 1862.

Taufzeugcn:
1. Ehefrau des Hauswirths SEMMEROTH,   Katharine Dorothea Elisabeth, geborene Willhus in Oldendorf.
2. Ehefrau des Hauswirths AHRENS,  Marie Friederike, geborene BLIESCH  in Muecklingen / Mücklingen.
3. Ehefrau des Revierförsters KOMMERT Juliane Marie geborene WEINSCHENK  in Roethen / Röthen.
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Personenstammblatt                                          V :   3
Mandant :  00-Boitze                                     25.04.12  

5. Kind MEYER, Adolph Heinrich Friedrich (M) ev.
* 08.06.1864 Röthen=Nahrendorf
~ 10.06.1864 Nahrendorf.
Auszug aus dem Taufregister der ev.-luth Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf   Nr. 25 / 1864 -Röthen-
Meyer, Adolph  Heinrich Friedrich, geb. den achten Juni. Morgens halb fünf Uhr.
Eltern : Parkwärter Jürgen Friedrich Meyer zu Röthen und dessen Ehefrau Katharine
Dorothea geborene Ahrens , get . den 10. Juli 1864.

  Taufzeugen:
1. Hauswirth Jürgen Heinrich Luhmann in Eichdorf.
2. Hauswirth Johann Friedrich Ahrens in  Mücklingen.
6. Kind MEYER,  Hermann Rudolph Friedrich   (M) ev.
* 02.04.1867 Röthen  = Nahrendorf
~ 21.04.1867 Nahrendorf.
Auszug aus dem Taufregister der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf
Nr. 13 /1867- -Röthen-
Meyer, Hermann Rudolph Friedrich  geb. den zweiten April. Morgens ein Uhr.
Eltern : Parkwärter Jürgen Friedrich Meyer zu  Röthen und dessen Ehefrau Katharine Dorothea
geborene Ahrens, get. 21. Apri1 1867.

Taufzeugen :
1. Hauswirthssohn Hermann Johann Heinrich Ahrens in Mücklingen
2. Häusler  Johann Heinrich Friedrich Michels  in Oldendorf.
7. Kind MEYER, Emilie Margaretha Dorothea (F) ev.
* 22. 10. 1868  Röthen = Nahrendorf-
~ 03. 1l .1868 Nahrendorf
Äuszug aus dem Tafregister der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde  Nahrendorf
Nr. 39/ 1868 -Röthen-
Meyer,  Emilie Margaretha Dorothea. geb. den zweiundzwangzigsten    October,  Äbends e1f
Uhr.
EItern :  Parkwärter Jürgen Friedrich  MEYER zu Röthen und dessen Ehefrau
Katharine Dorothea geborene AHRENS. get. den  03. November 1868.

Taufzeugen :
1. Häuslersfrau Catharina Dorothea SCHULZ. geborene HAUL.
2. Häuslersfrau Margaretha Dorothea  MICHELS, geborene AHRENS. beide in Oldendorf.



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This has been my copy of my most recent church document from Nahrendorf showing  the second
family of Jurgen Friedrich Meyer.

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