A Rootdigger

Browsing/ surfing Henke, Found Brockmann.

2012-01-26T09:53:00.010-06:00

Good morning, readers. Thanks for stopping in today.
Perhaps your just browsing a few names and my blog tags drew you in. I often do that myself to pass a few hours, when I have no intentions of doing anything else other than watching tv at the same time. It often brings new ideas and insights out of the wood works, you might say. [ I just need to be more versatile with my names and places.] I tried it again this morning with "Henke Celle ahnenforschung".

Last week, I happened to recheck Brookmann, Brockman tree at rootsweb world connect where I knew my Ilse Marie Brookman resides in his tree of collected Brockmann / Brookmann names. [She is the mother of my August Frd. Willian Seil. She died in Iowa.] While I searched the index for any progression of my own, and possibly the one at Barskamp connection to Friedrich Luhmann of Iowa, I noted other Brockmann/ Brockmann of Barskamp and surrounding area, which happens as you know. I still owe you that information which I added to my tree at ancestry.

Well you say to yourself, what are you getting to? Lets have it now.
ok. Here it is.
I came across this site A bis Z Nordsee Zeitung. it seems to stem or be related to a newspaper. this particular site I stumbled upon gives the meaning behind a surname. Whether it's high or low German. In this case Brokmann, Brookmann, Brockmann which must give clues to background for my ancestors the Brookman in my Seils life.

The name comes from early settlers in 'Bruchgelaende' in
swamps or bogs in areas of North Rhine Westphalia. However, I suspect this is
the biased {??} interpretation of Westphalian based report.

The
name Henke comes from the short form of a Westphalia's
low german of first name
Henrich, Hinrich, and
Heinrich.

Thus shared, and now, I will leave you as I move on to further investigate the little gifts one receives surfing.

Computer problems

2011-12-07T10:19:00.003-06:00

Hi, Just a little word about my absence. I have a new computer and the daughter added chrome. I am experiencing problems with it and blogging. However that may not be the reason. I cannot even make changes at times. At the moment I am on my other computer, which lets me have a short amount of time.
I will get the problem under the belt soon. Just bear with me.
I am still in touch though, and working on my ancestral tree like crazy; which is good for the blog posts to come.
Later-

Blogger Help - Wrong Material lead-

2011-10-18T11:53:00.007-05:00

Okay, I have to post this post aimed for the attention of other Bloggers. I could use a little help or a path or direction on solving a posting to facebook issue. It seems that the days I do Post some of my blog posts to make a point more than once on facebook, a comment will appear as part of the blog material, rather than maybe a beginning part of the blog I want to appear instead.

What Setting could be causing this.
What setting do I need to change or bring into my blog.
Often times too, maybe if there is no comment, I post a lead to my blog and it picks up pictures from the sides rather than the picture on the original post where I wish to call attention.

I never noticed it in the beginning, but maybe I didn't put that many on facebook before.

The post---
wow, one of most tiniest posts about nothing, had about seven links -???http://arootdigger.blogspot.com/2011/09/double-spacing-issues.html
A Rootdigger: Double spacing Issues
arootdigger.blogspot.com
I often have quirky issues with spacing, photo placement, or any of a myriad of word processing problems with my blog. Things disappear, refuse to be moved up or down, or occasionally have a different look from the preview mode. I get frustrated, but have learned to try and correct it several time...

I may have to google for help, but I am in hopes you fellow bloggers know the answer.

I have been having computer problems. Some foggy weather too.

2011-10-03T08:09:00.006-05:00

Hi there,

My computer suffered a little damage and like most laptops of mine the abuse always seem to lie around the cord plug in location. This time my son thinks it has affected the Band????

I was able to find a refurbished computer to replace this one, before it fails, and I have saved some files. I still have many more to save to an external file keeper. Whichmeans files will probably be moved into a mass of unorganized choas. Which will make blogging a longer process to access pictures and documents, when I post, an inconvenience, but I will worry less, and at least it's saved.

There are some differences between the older one and the newer puter.

One- The operating system is different. Before I ran only on firefox and xp. seven.
Now I am on explorer and a xp.
Two- I had all kinds of programs downloaded for my day to day use. Media means, igoogle and other programs that tripped my fancy.
Three- I had a different kind of virus detection program. The difference makes me a bit uneasy about downloading what I'll need to proceed.
Four- Somehow I can't seem to access my Blogger dashboard to make a post. The first week I had it, I was able to do so, but now I can't. It will be necessary to spend more time on this problem, which is vital before this old puter dies.

I just will have to see what the problem is about the google blog program that I seem to be missing. I have been able to maintain blogger before on the Earl's computer as well as the local libraries set up. So what is missing? Or what am I missing. More than likely it's just late middle age fog clouding and needs the time to clear.

So Blog posts are done now still on the old puter, where I easily access my documents and pics saved.
I pray and hold my breath each time, as I watch my puter struggle to stay with me, she seems so weak, and I thank the master, when I finish the post in time before she clunks out into darkness.

So just in case your wondering, it is one reason I am so slow in my posting.

See you later.

Double spacing Issues

2011-09-28T11:17:00.000-05:00

Bloggers do you have double spacing issues. I just noticed it to be so prominent.
Are yours?
How do you correct it or change it to single spacing?
It doesn't look like double as your writing and editing,
but in the end that is the result.

..........................................................................................................................................

. Also another little problem I have noted over time is the lack of proper space after a period. It should be two spaces. I have gone through my posts and changed it, satisfied and published and then as I view the post there it is again, the lack of two spaces after that dot.

Frederick Meyer Naturalization Document dated Jan.1878

2011-09-20T20:57:00.024-05:00

My Finds
It's no secret here at the blog about Meyer Family History that I have found several documents about Frederick Meyer [geb. 1851] Immigration, even his marriage. I have shared his passage plans, and his settlement at Jackson county Iowa. But there were the missing documents of his naturaliztion. So During Memorial weekend I was able to find his naturalization document. I had first looked in Greene and Calhoun. I foolishly did not look in Jackson county, Iowa until Memorial weekend. So take a look to see what I found then.

I'm a little disappointed that the co-signers often found in these documents aren't shown. But I'm thrilled all the same.

I'll share a few maps of Maquoketa platt maps later from Jackson co., Iowa.
You would find some of our surnames Of Michel, Schenk. Perhaps you can spot a few familiar names as you browse them. I'll have to see if I can find a general link to share.

I hope you will take the time to look.
It's never to late to search, most places probably uses Ancestry.com for research. It never hurts to see what is available in various Genealogy data places.

Sources from Ancestry.com.
Source Citation: National Archives and Records Administration (NARA); Washington, D.C.;Soundex Index to Naturalization Petitions for the United States District and Circuit Courts, Northern District of Illinois and Immigration and Naturalization Service District 9, 1840-1950 (M1285); Microfilm Serial: M1285; Microfilm Roll: 125.

Source Information: Ancestry.com. U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project) [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. This collection was indexed by Ancestry World Archives Project contributors in partnership with the following organizations:

View Full Source Citations

Description: Contained in this database are indexes to naturalization records (primarily declarations and petitions) for various courts (predominantly U.S. District and Circuit courts) and years. The states whose records are currently included in the database are Alaska, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Montana, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, New York, Tennessee, Washington, and Vermont. Records in this collection were indexed through the World Archives Project (see "Where to go from here" below for more info) and additional records from other states will be added as they are completed in the World Archives Project.

Source Information: Ancestry.com. U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project) [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. This collection was indexed by Ancestry World Archives Project contributors in partnership with the following organizations: Anchorage Genealogical Society.

Just a Little Chat About Commenters

2011-08-17T10:11:00.011-05:00

Once in a while like last week, I got a commenter at Oldendorf and Nahrendorf blog , who gave me a bit of information and a request about the Family information I was posting about the ROSSEBURG, REINECKE, family in the area of Oldendorf and Sueschendorf who possibly connect to our MEYER, SCHENK, MICHELS, SCHOOP, RIECKENS family Tree.. My immediate reaction is
Yes,
my blog is working for me!

Then I write back, check their blog or email and answer the request. In this case though I realize it is a correspondent from the past. Someone who I did tell about the blogging and he was very acquainted with my interest. In fact I thought I had emailed him this tree at one time. No matter, at least he sought me out and now blogs.
Good for him.

Hold your horses Genea Bloggers, He blogs about sheep and his farm.

Often times it is the same old story, relatives and people will contact you, and wander away. I often feel a little guilty if I detain them too long. I just hope they will come back.
There are some anonymous people who come back, or they may not.
I have no way of knowing.

It does influence what I write, such as this one, of course, but the last post I knew he would be interested in those, just as I know the future Buendorf and Gut Horn post will be as well.

One problem I have is since I am a blogger, I hesitate to take the present information from them. I regret it after they are gone. I should leave it up to them if they wish to trust me with it. I try to not ever put current people born after 1950 who have not ceased life in the info with birth information. Irregardless however, believe there should be locations for all to see. and at all possible a surname of whom they married. It certainly would help to know that in their time frame.

I do use my blogs as sources for my information or a referral to show I have proof behind my information at ancestry.com trees.

Some times I do wonder with some of them, who say to me, that is my family, I contact them and they fail to respond. I wonder are they happy or sad about it. For that reason I find it best to think my email through a day of so before writing.

I mean I will remove some information at any of my blogs if it is heart felt that I do so?
And do you really know what joy it is to hear that your here and took the time to read my long appearing blogs and the time to comment.

The Oldendorf Nahrendorf blog is not entertaining, which really helps to keep people coming back, nor is it loaded with current new information about Genealogy methods and the meat of technique, but I do provide many links to those bloggers who do this. I hope to be better at the Friday follow of those who do so readers can pickup on them.

Usually with new information I may google for some kind of indication of online information and then head to ancestry to add and to see what is there along those lines. This last time I was there I picked up at least one surname to add to this ROSSEBURG tree. The THIELE surname.
That Thiele post coming soon.

Now I must really get busy with a promised post at the Oldendorf und Nahrendorf blog.

Quickborn, the land, Hofs landlords family History

2011-08-15T01:36:00.012-05:00

The following Post transcript is actually taken and google translated from pages 99- 101 of the following book :-
DAHLENBURG
Streifzrüge durch die Geschichte
von Charlotte Wodaege
Herausgeber : Museumsverein Dahlenburg 1989

Sometimes in the case of translation about property the word Court represents the land or farm patch of land.

The surnames like Burmester and Burmeister, Jacobs, are very common names throughout many villages. Often connecting them. I also have Jacobs at Barskamp with Steinbach with family history running through Bargmoor, and other villages of Bleckede. Other surnames of Schlicht, Mueller. I am not sure yet of concrete ties to Burmester or Burmeister. I have one name, but instead of being Burmester, it might be Burmeister. So I am unsure if it ties.

1.3.2- Quickborn [pp.99]

QUICKBORN means living source.

1562 were recorded in the church records a "Jurate Lutje Zolee".
Every court in 1618 provided 104 days a year service manual was used, "two days a week with the handt is Schillingsgut give treasure, rent money and is no freedom."
{Kr Arch 96 / 3 - 26 / 11-160 / 13]

1667 registered Rev. Antonio BURMEISTER 4 landlord, prior to 5 Thirty Years War Interest on money for the church paid only three shillings Dietrich STOLTE, other names not recorded, the church history.

1651 "The village has been lying very desolate, but it has taken etzliche hooves again and built partly -1799 6 Hh-, Ki. Dahlenburg, "quoted Henry BORSTELMANN. The 6 Hh, ie half yards, which came after Pröve inheritances were probably due to the Church [Ki], "subject".
The following landlords have sat on these courts after Borstelmann:

"Halbhof 1.
1675 Balzer BURMESTER.
1686 Eh. Hans BURMESTER betweenEngel REIMER from Barskamp;
1689 Otto SEEDORF born Seedorf [Wwe.] Ilsabe SEEDORF born SCHROEDER from Dahlenburg; 1698 Eh. with Dor. Marg KRUSE.
1699 Hinr. KOENIG [eh Hans BURMESTER], and 1709th
1719 Franz BURMESTER, still 1779th
1786 Eh. between Johan Hinrich SAUCKE, Son of HSW. Hans Juergen SAUCKE in Dumstorf, and Marg Elisb. BURMESTER, daughter Francis of reinforced [E.].
1789 TOLLSCHNIBBE class. [kl.]
1799 Johan Hinrich SAUCKE.
1803 Eh. between Johan Hinrich SAUCKE and Dor. Elis. Stäger from Wendhausen.
1819 Eh. Johan Hinrich Christoph Saucke son of Hh. Johan Heinrich SAUCKE, [Stiefs] Stepson of Dor. Elisabeth STEGEN, and Anne Sophie Elisabeth GERCKEN, Daughter of George Gercken of Riebrau. the George T. [Riebrau in AMT. Hitzacker] [Ue. spaeter - later].

Halbhof 2.
1675 John BURMEISTER.
1699 Hans BURMEISTER, Joachims Son, and 1709th
1719 Hans BRUEGGEMANN [before Hans Burmeister], and 1727th
1739 Jürgen Lühr nor 1759th
1754 Eh. between Hans Otto Bünck [BUENCK], son of the cowherder in OITZ or Oitzen [Kr Uelzen], and Anne Ilsabe LUEHRS.
1769 Otto Buenck
1769 Eh. between Joh Friedr. Lühr, and Otto Bünck widow [Wwe] Anna Ilsabe née Bargmann; 1771 Eh. between Marg. Dor. STEINBOCK from Vindorf.
1779 Johan Friedrich LUEHR, also in 1789 and 1799th

Halbhof 3.
1675 Henry SAUTJE.
1699 John ABBOT [ABT.] [eh. Hinrich SAUTJE] nor 1719th
..........?1725 Eh. between John Henrich ABT and Marie Dor. Schop Daughter of Peter Schop in that area [ das].
1727 Hans ABT.
1739 Johan ABT, noch 1759.
1761 Eh. between Jürgen Christoph PERAU of Dahlem and Johann Henrich ABT's Wwe. Cath Marg born BURMESTER [E.].
1776 Eh. between Hans Jürgen LINNE [LINDE], of Bankewitz in Amt. Bodenteich and Kath. Maria ABT [E.]
1789 Hans Juergen LINDE , auch 1799.
1809 Eh. between Johann Hinrich Linde, Son of Hans Jürgen Linde and [s.] Eh. Kath Maria geb. Abt and Dor. Elisabeth TAEDER, Daughter of Hinrich Ludolf Taeder in Nahrendorf.

Halbhof 4
1675 Michel Raßeburg.
1681 Eh. between Hans Ratzeborch Kath. GERSTENKORN, the Daughter of Diedr. GERSTENKORN [See paternal. Court].
1699 Hans Raßeburg [eh Michel], and 1709th
1719 Franz Ratzeburg [ before Hans], noch 1739th
1750 Eh. between Jürgen Gerstenkorn from Buendorf and Dietr. Schulzen Wwe. Marie Kath. born Strachau; 1759 Eh. with Cath Marg Bartels, Daughter of Juergen BARTELS in the village of Ellringen.
1759 Jürgen GERSTENKORN.
1768 Eh. between Heinrich Chr. THAEDER from Quickborn and Marie Elis. Kath JACOBS, Daughter of Johan Jürgen JACOBS in the Dumstorf.
1769 Hinrich GERSTENKORN.
1779 Franz Henrich TAEGEDER.
1782 Eh. between Franz Jürgen GERSTENKORN, stepfather, Hans Chr TAEDER, and Dor. Elis. HAMBURG of Ricklingen.
1789 Franz Jürgen GERSTENKORN.
1801 Eh. BETWEEN Jürgen Hinrich Minrich of Niendorf Amt. Medingen, and Kath. Sophie GERSTENKORN, Daughter of Hh. Franz Jürgen GERSTENKORN. [E., Ue. ] after 6 years.
1834 Eh. between the prospective Hh. Jürgen Heinrich Mennerich & c. Eh. Kath Sophie nee GERSTENKORN, and Dor. Elisabeth Rappaul from Vindorf. [The oldest Son waives his Anerbenrecht to Hh. in favor of younger, Ue]..

Halbhof 5
?1621 Eh. between Paul RUNNE and Anne BURMEISTER in Quickborn, the former takes on the wild Burmeister's court.
1699 Hans BURMESTER, Son of Hinrich BURMESTER, on Stolten court also 1709th
1710 Eh. between Hinrich SEEDORF and Kah. Marg BARTELS, Daughter of Juergen Bartels of Ellringen {Ue. soon by the Stiefv.}.
1719 Hinrich SEEDORF [before Hans Burmeister], noch 1759th
1769 Franz Jürgen SEEDORF.
1771 Eh. between Hans Henrich SCHULTE from Mücklingen Anne Elisabeth LUEHR, the mayor or Schulzen Wwe. SEEDORF.
1779 Hans Heinrich SCHULTZ.
1788 Eh. between Frederick Menrich from Niendorf, Amt. Medingen, and Kah Dor. EXP. [verw.] SEEDORF [E., J. W. 20].
1789 Johann Hinrich Mennerich.
1799 Johann Friedrich Mennerich.
1834 Henry Mennerich takes over his father's. Yard.

Halbhof 6th
1675 yard waste.
1699 Reimer Raßeburg nor 1727; desolate 1739th
1749 Simon Hueter; 1759 and 1769 Wwe.
1779 George Wilh. Hueter, or 1799th
1823 George Wilh. Hueter passes the Hh. p. Son Wilh.Chr. Hueter. " [72]

Besides the division of the commons and the coupling of the arable fields were in the 19 Century saw the replacement of the manorial descents. This. Detachment found in all German states, in every village communities, where farmers were subject to duty. The severance konnetn done by cession of land by paying a cash sum or a pension. The strain was variable and depended on the amount of the obligations, we converted it into a pension and was replace by the payment of 25 times the amount of the annuity, and later even 18 times the amount. It happened that in the Peasant villages served various lords and therefore afford to have different charges.

This duty of loyalty of the peasants for centuries corresponded to the fiduciary duty of the gentleman who had to care such as home fires for the construction of the property, etc.. After the dissolution of human bonds of the farmer was free, but now had to operate according to its discretion.

We are not missing out on any whims around here.

2011-07-25T10:25:00.011-05:00

Garden of Jamie Anderson - Harvey Probst-Dunn co. Wi.

Hi, welcome back. Or maybe I mean that for myself. I just have been trying to join into a few activities this summer. I haven't neglected my other blogs too, just a few. I started a few posts and if I added anything a bit complicated, they just didn't get finished unfortunately.
I decided not to load you down with my excuses. Most of them not new. - It's summer, - Garden - Housework - Family History - Genealogy Research.
So this post today is brief. I have a few things to share as I pick up a little bit. I really do have to,and still need to get caught up on housework more. So no promises to better are coming. I more or less gave up on growing some major vegetables. It seems without enrichment to the soil and my methods with the beans didn't make them grow. The cucumber plants are so very small. Then too we had such along winter here in Wisconsin, I didn't want to risk planting so early. Let me say, I should have and mean to next year.

Well as far as my family tree in genealogy research goes, I have had to visit my Heins blog many times. In a whim of a search for some data, I caught my error. and noticed the mistake in the HEINS family in the information where the church researcher left off that I had been given. Yes, how embarrassing, huh? I think some details changed or some kind of unnoticed mix up. Because Christy never said anything as she double checked either. I do believe Herr Soltau noticed something, which I didn't catch on to what he meant about an error, as well. Anyway, Herr Fink had it posted at this website, where details on the family were missing long before under my HEINS and WINKELMANN, KOCH names. I have sent many a person to my detail and there. Maybe someone noticed my errors and said something to Herr Fink and he filled in some new data as it came in. I believe it makes more sense as to what Mr. M & M told me. I am glad to see more family history data under the family surnames.

And now I follow my whims to where the new names lead me.
I like the results so much better. And, I am not losing much for surnames, believe me.

In this area of Bergen, Celle, [Nord Celle] the surnames keep going like the Eveready Bunny. Going and Going. From one family to another and off in all the little side shoots. So I hope to share a little more on this error and the new results in the coming months.

No, you can't cheat by jumping to my HEINS family tree blog Genealogy of a rootdigger, because it's not fixed there at all either. It is however a Genealogy work in progress at ancestry.com, and I have the line on my Gerd family tree page. If your a member and a follower, if you have a whim to see those updates there. Or simply leave a comment or email me.

My Father - Dwight Meyer

2011-06-18T04:00:00.011-05:00

Honoring My Father for Fathers Day

Hi, I have wandered in for Fathers Day. I thought I would babble a little about some personal moments spent with my father and quit when the demons of guilt attack me.

You see at the right some penny photos of my father Dwight R. Meyer. I wonder who he was taking them for and where he was having them taken. Since he was usually the picture taker, I have few of him. I have had several photos of him at several of my blogs that I have shared in he past.

I just happen to think that he was an adorable small child.

In those pictures my mom always said that he was dressed like a little girl. It makes you wonder sometimes if it was a subconscious action of Grandma Annie? After all she had two boys, not a girl and a boy.

Do you have relatives Dressed like girls?
You know Lyle was given his own photos, and so what he wore when he was small is kind of unknown to me. Perhaps dad wore Lyle's hand me downs.
I think they were given play rompers, which could be bleached and kept nice and clean. Play clothes, but not exactly like you know the Trapp family play clothes in the musical movie Sound of Music. Luckily it was not from drape material.

Dad certainly needed them.
At any rate, I'll throw in a few of those links below so you can see for yourself.
Dwight Meyer second born son on February 8, 1918 at rural Sunnyslope farm in southern Minnesota. I am sorry, I know nothing about the details, if it was actually on the farm or at the hospital.

It probably was not that well known that he had left handed tendencies. As I was just a little thing I remember him consoling me as I was trying to use a scissor or a some tool, he confided that he too had a difficult time with those kind of tools. This confidence revealed two things. It was how he was with me, as sympathetic understanding father with a softer side. Also it reveals that he had left handed tendencies, which made things a bit more difficult for him because everyone tried to make him do the normal way. So as a child he had to relearn a task of using scissors. And I suppose in a school situation it stood him out from the others, not always in a good way.

I think too, though it was rarely said and rarely understood, that he was the youngest male at the farm. Most people don't know that he had his mothers younger half brothers and sisters, whom lived with the Meyer family and August Seils family all in the big old house for many years. One day when I was complaining and feeling a sibling crunch, he had confided to me in his gentle way, that there were times when he too had to pay the toll toward the elder siblings. He didn't go into it as much as he could have, I am not sure why. I never caught on that those Jaeschkes were those of whom he was thinking. I had thought it was just his brother he was thinking about.

I had no real thoughts on all this or clues, and it was those tender moments in recall I was gifted the important genealogical information that confirmed some hunches, which led to facts for me, which lead to further wonderful discoveries

I thought I would show Dad as a father here holding his eldest son Sonny. Next to him is a Unknown to me tall family member. I always thought of him as tall enough, but guess he wasn't as tall as some of his Iowa family appear to be.

My mother told me in their latter years, how much dad had wanted a little girl and well he did get me, a little book worm. This might be why there was one particular little spunky sassy girl by the name of Laura Lynn Day, who used to come out to the farm to stay with dad and Mom for a weekend. She was around three or four years of age. Dad would get her around the barn safely to be help feed the animals, etc. I think we all enjoyed those visits. She enjoyed the animals and the farm life, so much, I guess that was part of her charm. It was a topic of many a conversation to learn what she had been doing, what she had said, while she was there. [ For some reason we particularly like the spunkiness]

I could go on and on with memories about my dad sameness and uniqueness to yours and mine.

I am sure all your fathers day thoughts will be on your own special father.
And maybe each of you will be creating your own memories for your children. Or thinking about how you will or won't be doing certain things yourself when the time comes for you in your season of adulthood. I hope you all have a nice fathers day weekend.

Our Women as Mothers for Mothers day.

2011-05-05T22:46:00.020-05:00

Elisabeth Seil Jaeschke born 1873 and Annie Seil Born1893

Left -Jo Meyer granddaughter of Annie and her daughter Sharon -Sharon about 1981
Right - Annie Seil Meyer, shown here as a mother watching
her son either Lyle or Dwight. Estm. time of 1913- 1919

Elisabeth or Lizzie Seil had a baby nearly every year after
she married Gustav Jaeschke. In this picture she already has had six children.

This is the same woman [now married to Gustav Jaechke] holding Annie in top photo. And Annie Seil is now the girl in the back row by her self, about sixteen or seventeen years old.

Surname - Vogel Family From Farnhamville, Iowa

2011-05-04T13:37:00.017-05:00

Surname connection of the VOGEL family from Bohemia, Illinois, and Iowa

I wasn't always arootdigger at Genealogy or family history research!
I was clearing out a box from my mother back in 2001, and laid my hands on a leather pouch with some potentially useful documents and clippings, which raised my thinking to full glory curiosity. I said to myself. just maybe, I could browse the names on those papers and see if I could see what was involved in online genealogy searches. So self said - "find out".[ Oh yes, I do talk to myself] So I ran downstairs to find out immediately on the computer.

I supposeyou haave seen the Ancestry and family history ads online so had I only there were less then. So I thought why not go into it and see what the various ancestry websites had and make some posts even though I only had a little data to go on. Which many other Genealogists seem to resent. But don't let that stop you. I stopped to read a few genealogy sites from the famous Cyndi's website when the need arose.

Long story short, that little start led me to my mentor Berniece JAESCHKE and Tom VOGEL, whom was interested in my Grandmother Annie SEIL and August, her father or grandfather's wife Anna UMLAUF of the VOGEL family. It was through his work that I saw the basics, the pitfalls, and gained the understanding of how they fell in with his Vogel tree. .

Because of that tiny research, I then understood why my father/grandfather kept the special clippings that he had in his leather pouch. A leather pouch of only a few documents, which was valuable in my research. As I was searching, I added a couple miscellaneous clippings I found scattered through the box from my mother. So now I am unsure which ones I added and which papers were there originally. That tiny research project I began that day, grew into the vast interest I have for all those surnames you see repeatedly here at arootdigger. Surnames and places about my ancestor's families at Farnhamville church of Iowa, told here again and again and at my Oldendorf and Nahrendorf Website.
My websites which, I began to share with you for the first time in 2008 at the first week of May.

Over these years as arootdigger blogger of MEYER and SEIL family history research, I have been so grateful for my mothers hoarding history of anything on paper. Like everyone else in this hobby, I just wish I had kept a few more pieces that I thought did not pertain to the family. I guess that is why meaningful old family PHOTOS AND MEMENTOS end up in antique stores.

So I try to learn more about the VOGEL Family Tree History in Iowa, as well as their home country Bohemia and Czech Republic, whenever I can. You noticed in last post that the Saucke family were linked to the Vogel family. So above is another page from a book about Farnhamville families that deals with the Vogel family. The other half of that page about the SAUCKE family is on the previous post.

Note: I have made a few posts here at arootdigger before about that Vogel family involvement of the family. Time and time again you have noticed, that I have mentioned that I have not found the Dohrman or Vogel on the census at Joliet. It needs to be said, I sure wish I could. A future project again some day, when it rains or too hot outside; when I am not being a rootdigger in some other capacity.

Henry Saucke and wife Maria - Wordless Wednesday

2011-05-04T12:35:00.005-05:00

As promised I have shown you the Henry Saucke and wife Maria clipping from my trip to Iowa a few years ago.

Not bad for Wordless Wednesday.
Stay tuned for tomorrows clipping of the Vogel family. The Vogel tree is at the bottom of the blog page.

The birthday of Herman Henry Meyer 27.04.1881

2011-04-27T07:26:00.016-05:00

Let me tell you a small life story about my grand father, the gentleman above on the far left, who would have had a birthday today, if he had lived this long. Herman in those days were spelled with a double 'r' or with a double 'n'

By the way, did you know that sometimes the German word Herman interprets as meaning Gentleman.

For many years people were under the assumption that my grandfather Herman was born in 1883, but no he was not. People also referred to him as Herman Henry to designate him from someone else. It really does have more of a ring to it than, if you were to say Henry Herman. I am sure there is more to the stories of the misconceptions, but since I am honoring him and his birthday today, I will leave that all to rest.

He was a gentle tall, broad relatively silent man. Sure he understood German and spoke a little of it, but he did speak English very well. After all he came from Oldendorf Germany with his parents and his four siblings when he was around three years old in the first week of April nearly one hundred and twenty seven years ago. He and his family lived at Oldendorf at a small 'hof' which his father owned in the forest area of the Goehrde where his father worked as a game warden.

Herman
Heinrich Friedrich Herman Meyer was born April 27, 1881 at Oldendorf, Niedersachen, Germany. Afterwards the family went a few miles to the church at Nahrendorf to baptise him. He was brought up in the Lutheran faith all of his childhood and it remained with him. You will see all the information of his birth and that of his family at that link. You can find more information through out the blog on Him, than nearly anyone else.

I knew so little about his prior life, while I was a child raised in his household, and what I did know, I took for granted that everyone else knew it too. In that same thought, I seem to have failed to share more about what he was actually like. At various posts I have mentioned his lovely wife Anne SEIL and her many Jaeschke siblings, grandparents, who were involved in their life. As well as his and her devotion to her grandfather, who lived with them in Minnesota in the settlement years of their life. He and August Seil were attempting to be Gentleman farmers of their estate. Maybe I should say that those were the years they farmed and raised a family.

I can only tell you about Herman from bits and pieces of family lore, and pictures in the family album. Wel, l I suppose you don't often find pictures of the olden days of them working, and I actually have a few, but not of him.
If you were to glance at the many photographs of them in his personal photo album [ that probably was put together by Annie,] you would see that they traveled a little on some sight seeing trips and other times to be with family. I have seen evidence that Annie was involved with the 4- H organization of the Watonwan community. Herman was involved with support in the education of the youth as well, in his work at the country school across from his land a few yards down the road. For many years he held various offices at the meetings. They attended events there involving the local farming community. I have mentioned before that they had a gas station and diner at the five and ten mile corner, which kept them very busy and active outside the home.

Annie was the picture taker of their family members. It was her life and her family that was his personal life, which made him a happy family man that you see on all those old pictures. [Sadly so many untold stories.] Or at least that is what I gather from the photographs. When she was gone, so was it seems, the light of his life. Annie died when her sons were grown to their end of their teen years and Herman remained single the rest of his life.

Maybe I should say the way of life and the kind of life, Many of those people [ associations] of his youth were gone. My mother did what she could to keep him busy with something, and bring things into his life that would maybe rekindle memories and joy.
I heard from a distance several references to music in his life. He had learned to play some kind of violin. I believe he was in a music group at some point of his young years. I heard him say the violin was gone, probably in the fire. I wonder if he would have played, if he had his violin in his later years.

Many people have commented to me that Herman was a large man. He was taller than his siblings by a few inches and enough by male Meyer standards. But Yes he was large, but he never seemed to be so to me, maybe due to his height.
..................Herman Henry Meyer in nineteen forties or fifties before 1955.
He wasn't so much in many photographs of his younger years. He developed heart problems and had a stroke, so he retired from the farm work. He still took care of the egg business side of he farm work and what ever else he could to help. His son, Dwight took over the farm and Herman was told to walk and rest. Which he did. As children we knew when he would be walking all over the farm on his walks.

He still had an interest in things, and people, but so many that were close to him had passed on, his remaining sisters lived in Iowa, and so many other states. When he could no longer drive, he was at home most of he time.

I am not going to dwell on the dementia that took over his personality, I prefer to speak of Herman Henry MEYER as he was, when I was a child. Up until that time he was able to draw from the memories that he had as wonderful gentleman who had made for himself a fulfilling life.

It really is a wonderful day April 27th. - 130 years later of the day of his birth in 1881.

~ ~

~ Just me jo meyer arootdigger ~

Books and Amazon advertisement

2011-04-20T11:41:00.009-05:00

It's no secret that I am a book lover. I have been contemplating placing something about Genealogy and family history, research books on one of my web pages. I especially have been thinking of adding some ads from Amazon. And maybe a book list on subjects I am interested in. Which is vast. I just have been a

little shy about it. Burying my head, you might say.

I don't feel I should do it on arootdigger.blogspot, because it's overloaded as it is.
I was wondering if any of my fellow bloggers have any advice for me. Any comments on the subject of placing the Amazon ads. I realize many genealogy bloggers do not even attempt any ads at all. Not that I have studied those with three columns throughly. It's highly possible they have ads or links to something that does.

Anything I gain or make goes back into my great love of the Genealogy hobby. As I have mentioned, my AdSense is not hooked up completely yet for my rewards to roll in. [ smile].

In any case family and friends please do not click the ads. If you know me, do not click any ads. You would not be helping me in anyway. You could do us harm.

If I were to roll in a income of anything over a hundred dollars :
1. I have two favorite church archives which would benefit. Dahlenburg and Nahrendorf.
2. I have other churches, such as Soltau district and Thomasburg church, which would benefit from the donation.
3. I have a person who could round up some More Meyer and Seil information in two or three days from the Hannover archives. I would pay all fees and travel time. It's a deal I have had to pass up. After all I managed to hire Friedrich Burmester of Bleckede a few years back with great results. He must be nearly ninety years old by now. I am not sure how active at it he is these days.
4. Several keepers of the regional books would profit. Such as Greene county, Iowa, I hear they have a new book coming out.
5. If only I could use it to travel to Illinois, Iowa or Minnesota for information, more often.
- Naturally I would share all information gleamed for the next five years to come.

The draw back is that maybe it would increase my Book want list.
Oh how I wish I could do all the stuff I dream about here. The oncoming years close to retirement has put a little fear in me, enough so I have been very cautious about spending.

In the words of my relative, a blog has to be more than a report of my dreams and wishes. If your looking for more than what you find here, by all means please check my blog lists to the right. There are tons of blogs with information and. entertainment of all kinds that can satisfy any genealogy family history research sweet tooth.

Gosh, I love sharing the information I find here at arootdigger and at my Oldendorf, Nahrendorf blog. Thanks for the opportunity, and coming here to read now and then. Stay around now and then to see what new posting I am making.

The Top 50 Genealogie Seites for Germany in 2009

2011-04-18T20:48:00.011-05:00

I found most of the top USA forty and fifty genealogy web sites very familiar for year 2010 that a good many of you wrote about earlier this year, and I suppose you did too. It was nice to see fellow bloggers take the honor.
In fact I had to google to see who was in the year 2009. I would like to have spent more time reading so many of them, but I am hoping I can later.

A few days ago looking for something else, I stumpled upon the top 50 Genealogy Sites 2009 of Germany. I thought you might want to take a look.
I am not sure how much will stay translated. You can click the third listing at the left if you lose your place. You can always submit it into google and then click translate if you want. Or enter the address into your favorite translator.

One thing in particular that piqued my interest was the use of the word 'Rambow' I saw on another one I had been looking into. If I find that one again, I want to spend a little time on it. I thought I saw a good deal of English being used. There is a very known Genea Blogger, a genealogist who made the list, Timo Kracke with his www.kracke.org/blog/ [ It helps to keep the same picture on facebook as a Genea - Blogger; which contributed to my recognition of him immediately .]

Also, a few years back I met someone who used the name Grohn, and I saw that surname in a website, also. The places of origination for some of the individuals were not that far from places I would look into for information. I find Boehm of Silesia. And the region Silesia seems to be of interest, maybe to look into another day in the future.

Even though my main interest is Niedersachen, and I saw so few from my area below Hamburg, I found it fun to look anyway. I suppose I will google for 2010 one of these days too.

As they said

The questions: "Where I come from?", "Who are my ancestors?" oder " Woher stammt mein Name ? " or "Where is my name ? " beschäftigen eine stetig wachsende Zahl an Familienforschern. Employ a growing number of family researchers.

And it is the same questions universally to us, no matter where we live.

I see www.dietmar-obermeyer.de is on the list, and think it has been top for many years. It carries some of my links I have on my blogs. Also the Greve site is not unfamiliar to me.

Enjoy, Maybe one of your surnames or someone you know will turn up.

An April fools Prank or not.

2011-04-08T01:19:00.018-05:00

We were invited for
supper by my son,

Nic and his girl friend, Crystal last Friday night,

April Fools night.
I then was told that the two
had announced their
engagement on face book

prior to going out.

Since it was April Fools day,

they were going to have fun with

the disbelief they were expecting.

I hadn't seen the hooting

and hollering. I missed it.

After a quick browse the next morning I caught up with it.

As you see by the photo Nic is a
fun loving guy.
All I can say is that I am glad they had their fun with it. I thought they were going to tell us the wedding plans were their April fools joke, and that they were not getting married. [ smile] No. not the case. Instead we talked about the wedding plans.

It has been pretty hard for me to keep my mouth shut about their engagement
for these many weeks since February, when they told us.
Shortly after that they went to California to visit and tell her mother.

Okay, I may have dropped a few hints here and there, but not every one reads everything I say on face book.

Besides an delicious meal, my husband and I met Crystal's mother. She had brought me a gift of mint chocolate, which was a thoughtful gesture. There was something about her that clicked with me. I mean what's there not to like when someone gifts you candy of the mint and chocolate combination. I really liked her, and we had a few things in common.

One thing I especially remember that she told me was about her going along with her father on his many trips all over USA as a investigation detective. She had started to tell me about one very interesting story about a man and his bigamy past. And I had to interrupt her to ask, if she had seen something similar on "Who Do You Think You Are". She had, she does watch it. I hope to learn more about that bigamy case at a further time, maybe when she comes for the wedding in late May.

Yes, I said May. The wedding will be at the end of May, and I really have a lot to do for house work. I usually call it Spring cleaning, but now I thing I could call Last Minute Spring Cleaning Spring Pressure. Wedding Jitters or Last minute wedding all lend itself to this article on last minute suggestions for getting things done See for yourself.

So no fooling, I shall be very busy for awhile. I am sure that I will wander here to blog, when I should be working, but I have to have a little fun too! I also have a decision to make soon, as far as this blog and it's visibility goes.
I have shared a family engagement detail with you; So now it's your turn to share a little story about your child's engagement.

I was Presented with "One Lovely Blog Award"

2011-04-05T09:51:00.022-05:00

I have received the "One Lovely blog Award" from Liz at My Tapley Tree and it's Branches.
It's a first for me. I had not thought of my blog as lovely, especially compared to so many other blogs. We have to keep in mind that the award also goes to someone who puts lots of love or hard work into their blog.
For the Blog award of the "One Lovely Blog Award." Thank you, Liz, I really appreciate that someone is reading and noticing that I love sharing my family history, my family, ideas, and my research on my blog 'arootdigger'.

There are three simple rules for accepting this award:

Acknowledge the award by posting on your blog.
Nominate 15 other blogs that you think are lovely.
Contact each person to let them know that they have received the award.

Okay to follow the rules. I will try to find someone who has not already shown their award, I hope a double presentation does not happen as I take the time to follow with the fifteen names. I have tons of favorite blogs, not all in the genealogy field. But I will try to stick to the Genealogy Blogger or Genie, Genea Bloggers.

I really stink at this kind of thing. I always mess it up. I am afraid I did so again.
I took a little time to do some browsing, which I did enjoy and found many wonderful blogs. [ I plan on returning to them for further reading. ] I decided in mid stream that the award looks a little famine and just maybe the guys would not want to sport such an award, so I began to pass them by. I marked the possibilities with an x in a note book and a star on my notes. sometimes I was ready to approach a blogger and then I noticed no posts in 2011 and so I didn't bring up anything with theirs. That is a shame really. Sometimes I noticed others had an award already much further back in time. Also, I suspect many I asked had already been asked.

I did ask a few and tried to make note of it by a handmade star in my note book. But I also did this to those I wanted to ask.................

Well I created a bit of a problem with the star system. An old age moment, Or just a lack of sleep, I guess. Or I returned the next day to continue my work and started staring those, who I had asked. Now tonight, I am not sure who was asked previously. Who I started to ask and changed my mind midstream noticing my qualifying characteristics mentioned above.

So to make the long story medium short. I will say my list may miss a few peopleof whom I asked. I could go through many to see if my comment is there, but if it wasn't published, then well, I still wouldn't know.
The last thing I want to do is hurt someones feelings. I really want the people I asked to have the award and the link here at my blog. I added two extra for the just in case. Please leave a comment here and I will fix it promptly.
If I didn't ask you and I said I did, for some other senior moment, please let me know.

Ohh my gosh, I sure make things harder than they have to be, don't I? Let's just get her done. Sorry everyone.
.........................................................

The One Lovely Blog Award list. [With no favoritism to the order]
1- *http://deliasgenealogyblog.blogspot.com/
Delia's Genealogy Blog

2-*http://claudiasgenealogyblog.blogspot.com
Claudias Genealogy Blog

3- *http://lucieslegacy.blogspot.com/
Lucies Legacy

4- *http://swedenroots.blogspot.com/
Yvonne at Swedish Thoughts

5-*http://2338wwashingtonblvd.blogspot.com/
Margel at 2338 Washington Blvd

6-*http://afamilysstory.blogspot.com/
A Family's Story Horse Thieves And All

7-*http://tierneyhistory.blogspot.com/
A Light That Shines Again

8-*http://multitudeofsens.blogspot.com/
Tracy at A multitude of -sens

9-*http://genealogyeducation.blogspot.com/
Angela at Adventures in Genealogy Education

10- *http://treeclimbingwithsonja.blogspot.com/
Sonja at Tree Climbing With Grandma Sonja

11-*http://viewfromthebluffs.blogspot.com/
Barbara at View From The Bluffs

12*http://whereicomefrom2.blogspot.com/
Robin at Where I Come From

13-*http://okoblaya.blogspot.com/
Voices past and Present
Gr8dame

14-*http://yourstoryhere.blogspot.com/
Jane at Video Biography Central

15-*http://sharingtheirstories.blogspot.com/
Gen story gal at Sharing Their Stories

16-*http://lundyfamilyhistory.blogspot.com/ [Doesn't give results so click on name]
http://ancestorsearch.blogspot.com/

Jennifer's Genealogy Blog
17- http://jennifergenealogy.blogspot.com/
[Link changed and should work.]

18- *http://abt-unk.blogspot.com/
.About Unknown
.......

Again I apologize for messing this up. .
Enjoy, The picture is really lovely.
Now, your blog page will look even lovelier.

Some of those extra possibilities
*http://lucieslegacy.blogspot.com/
*http://musingmary.blogspot.com/
*http://rootsresearcher.wordpress.com/
so that's where I get it from
*http://www.familytreesmaycontainnuts.com/
*http://genwishlist.blogspot.com/
Abt Unk
http://abt-unk.blogspot.com/
http://scratchingthebark.blogspot.com/
Adventures in the Family tree
http://ancestorsearch.blogspot.com/
Ancestor Search blog
Kathi
http://telltheirstory.blogspot.com/
Who Will Tell Their Story?
genblog [also]
Juli
Jen or Gen.
*Jennifers genealogy blog
http://linguistgenealogist.blogspot.com/
A Linquist's Guide to Genealogy
Sandusky History.blogspot

Source of Award:
http://gatapleytree.blogspot.com

Luhdorf map Attempts

2011-03-28T11:14:00.004-05:00

Niedersachen, Luneburg, Harburg, Luhdorf

Größere Kartenansicht
Ahh success.

This what I got first for forever!
Luhdorf google map

Sorry this was suppose to be a link with an embed. It was not. I have been trying to get around to the old version of google map, with out landia. it's tough to find.
Anyone know why, bloggers?

Dahlenburg family history surname Verikas

2011-03-14T10:34:00.007-05:00

Inscription inside the cover by Charlotte Wodaege to Elisabeth.

Welcome back to arootdigger page. I should tell you that you need not worry.
I know that I have to finish posting more on the Meyer Descendant family tree. Like I did with the children and trees of Fred and William Meyer that I started weeks ago. I should really designate a day for my postings and stick to it. Just so you know, I haven't abandoned the intention or the project. You will see it here eventually. I get into new tangents......
I have some new fun [for me] ideas as well.

I wanted to discuss with you some fun plans that I have recently decided upon.

1. Index my book pages by Charlotte Wodaege into a small notebook. Even if I cannot read it that fast, at least I can refer to my notebook Index for a name or place. I think it will help me a lot. I just have to see which method will work the best for retrieval.

2. I found a second book of Charlotte Wodaege here which I hope to look at more throughly. After all she says she has descendants here in United States. I am curious about a Mueller family she mentioned in her Dahlenburg book. which title translates to

Charlotte Wodaege: Dahlenburg (Streifzüge durch die Geschichte)1989. Charlotte Wodaege: Dahlenburg (Rambling through the story) 1989.

http://www.weltbild.de/3/16011453-1/buch/auf-den-spuren-einer-preussischen-beamten-familie.html

3. I have been looking for the previous owner of that book. I think that would be fun, and just maybe helpful. I can do it because there was a book ownership stickeris in it. I am kind of curious why she bothered to put that in it. There was an inscription inside on face page by Charlotte herself. I am so curious about the whole story?

Since this is Monday a day people share other peoples writings, I will start with the names from that book.

Alex and Elisabeth Verikas from Wisconsin.

Yes, of course I have previously browsed a little and I am withholding some information already. I still don't know which surnames Elisabeth Verikas was interested in at Dahlenburg. I don't know what she found out? Where she went from there? Do they fall into our family history at Dahlenburg. Were they our ancestors too or well connected to them? But there is a good deal of unknown too to be discovered as the days go by.

If you know anything or found anything of the family Verikas, please let me know.

Unexpected; Anticipation with Family History Surnames

2011-03-13T10:54:00.011-05:00

Unexpected; Anticipation
What do I mean by that title? That one family history tree surname of yours connects to another unrelated ancestral tree. If it connects its related? And it is the name of our game in genealogical name pursuit.

Let me explain_ If I have Members of the Jonas tree with surnames Banit, Quast, Stehr, Luhman, Lohman, Meyer, Borschatz as seen here [http://www.jonas-online.de/genealogy/jonas/names1.htm#Behnken] and I am doing a refresh on the Behmken/Meyer tree at Sauk co. Wi, and was reviewing other related trees to their data at Goodhue county, Minnesota. I am not expecting to find a Hauschild that connects to the Davenport in say Pierce county, Wisconsin. It doesn't hurt to browse the name, since the location is close. [ I don't actually recall the exact area anyway.] But sometimes luck runs that way and it happens. Hadn't I found once that the Michel's name led to Stream and that led me to my own area of Greene and Calhhoun couty with the surname Stream. It came to nothing that connected. I suppose it was a waste of time. It's just at that time, I knew next to nothing about my other Mich[a]els tree.

It could have happened today as I was reviewing some surnames and trees that tie to them. It's that I just didn't want to pursue it. At the time of my investigation, I doubt I was saving them to my trees. I just didn't want to take the time to check further. I would say that their is a six chance out of nine, it goes further. Which is a reminder to myself that if your investigating anything you should document your journey. If this pops up again, I can dig out my reminder file and see oh yes, I found this here and here on the Hauschild / Davenport for the Butteriss Family tree.

My tree does seem like a mess, and I am not proud of them.
Now I save everything I am interested in for later investigation. A couple of broad working trees are for just that. Ohhh I'll tidy them up one of these days. Just not today.

I have been in a little reality slump that results from paying attention to the world around me.
I have a little formula for depression due to the world events. It is simply to emerse myself into the surnames of my genealogical interests. I just refresh myself with the information. And well I do have to refresh the old memory. Well, Just jog the brain a little. While I am doing so, I can see at Ancestry just what is new. Etc.

I don't go through all of them, cause I have quite a few trees.
Anyway, I noticed the name Hauschild, Hauschildt and the memory of my pursuit of it with the name Davenport and my dear Mary Butteris.

See how it goes.

I just happen to reflect that sooner or later, folks while your browsing one tree, it just might run into your other tree, which you thought was entirely unrelated. [ except of course for your own self which joins the tree too]

Genea bloggers Radio -- blog talk radio

2011-03-10T08:04:00.006-06:00

Genea bloggers Radio.
Now isn't that an interesting concept. This is new to me. I have attempted to browse it a little. And I am still not finished checking it out. If I don't forget I will give it a try tomorrow night. Unless of course it costs money.
Have any of you attended before?

Mostly for my benefit, but yours as well, I have cut and pasted the directions from Genea bloggers page below from last weeks notice. It will serve as a reminder for me.

So here is how it all works for Mr 4th:
1

Visit the GeneaBloggers page at Blog Talk Radio.
Click on the Upcoming Episode
On Mr 11, 2011 -
GeneaBloggers Radio - Guest Interview Noah Tutak of Geni.com
Then you can sign up for updates and reminders.
At 9:00 pm CST on Friday, March 4, 2011, listen in at the Blog Talk Radio website. The player should start automatically – you will need to turn on your computer speakers or use your headphones.

2

If you want to dial in and share your thoughts and comments, the dial-in number is (213) 286-6709.

There will also be a chat room on that same page where you can type and interact with other listeners. [Note: you must have an account at Blog Talk Radio and sign in to access the chat room!] I often take cues and suggestions from the chat room, so don’t be shy!

Thomas MacEntee

I have been taking part in a chat room at Ancestorville at Facebook. Are you aware of it. There are many chat room topics and you can select the one your interested in attending.

Some one mentioned the archives, so I will be looking for this especially. Once I experience it, I will report back.

James M.Garrison Family Tree Research

2011-03-07T21:23:00.008-06:00

James M. Garrison
Birth: 22.Feb.1863
Death: 5.May.1918

Burial:
Nevada City Cemetery
Virginia City
Madison County
Montana, USA

Created by: Jane Barkell
Record added: Feb 02, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 4747585

Click for - Find a grave search form.

Yes He was father to Four Children:
With Diane's help.......
1. *Has No Children- John B. GARRISON b: FEB 1896 in Madison Co, Montana
2. Has No Children- Edna M. GARRISON b: ABT 1901 in Madison Co, Montana
3. Has No Children- William F. GARRISON b: ABT 1904 in Madison Co, Montana
4. Has No Children- James M. GARRISON b: ABT 1909 in Madison Co, Montana
They have spouses shown at Ancestry.com/
James Milton Garrison was named after his father
Milton Lloyd Garrison

Note:
Thanks so much to Find a Grave organization. Especially Jane Barkell.
2. * Not so sure about no Children!

There was about ten family trees at ancestry.com with this Garrison Tree. Naturally the information differs at times.
I also read some shocking information. I'm not sure what to make of it.

From Ancestry.com - Montana Pioneers Society

2011-03-05T13:53:00.009-06:00

Since I am Browsing Queen, I thought I'd share a tidbit from my Montana search this week.

From Ancestry.com we find the Montana Pioneers Society [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004. Original data: Sanders, James U., ed.. Society of Montana Pioneers. Vol. I. n.p.: Society of Montana Pioneers, 1889.

This database contains information relating to the Society of Montana Pioneers. Included in this work are the Society's constitution; a listing of officers of the state society, the county societies, and the society of sons and daughters; and listings.
[Source Information :

Ancestry.com. Society of Montana Pioneers : constitution, members and officers, with portraits and maps [database on-line]. Provo, UT: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005.Original data: Society of Montana Pioneers : constitution, members and officers, with portraits and maps. Montana: The Society, 1899.]

http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=28876

Don't forget to check google book search. The below link is one found there.

Many other links to try.
http://books.google.com/books?id=g2RNAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=society+of+montana+pioneers&source=bl&ots=NljMors3E1&sig=9y57Gqfqfw0RIB1QAUwHbjGNMIY&hl=en&ei=qCx1TY28M8OB8gaHzoCUDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CGEQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mtgenweb/pioneer-t.html
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mtteton/1899societymtpioneers.html
http://nwda-db.wsulibs.wsu.edu/findaid/ark:/80444/xv13342

http://www.sonsanddaughtersmontanapioneers.com/
Society of Montana Pioneers Thomas Monroe Co Genealogy found ebay at times.

googled links:
http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS274&=&q=society+of+montana&btnG=Google+Search#sclient=psy&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS274&q=society+of+montana+pioneers&aq=0&aqi=g1g-o1&aql=f&oq=society+of+montana+pio&pbx=1&fp=e020a02c9f622a8e

Well lots of links, and google search can bring forth results for some good reading for History, Genealgy and sight seeing rewards.
just jo arootdigger

Garrison, Husband, Fehring Surnames Family Ancestry Research at Nevada,

2011-03-05T06:19:00.019-06:00

Memorial Stone of Fehring.location he died at Adobetown but buried at Nevada Cemetery in Montana.

Today we're working along the ancestry family tree history line of the FEHRING and GARRISON . I spent a few hours on it last night. and then I decided to take a quick glance in rootsweb to see if anyone has the tree. I can say proudly someone had that exact tree. Don't you love it when things fall in line like dominoes.

Diane has published the tree with a highlight of her surnames of HEDINGER and WALTER. She briefly covers the Garrison tree. which ties to Union county, Iowa.

The family history ancestry of Milton GARRISON with Margaret HUSBAND famiy tree goes back much further, but at the moment those whom we have mentioned that are concern to us were at Nevada city; Virginia City; and Adler Gulch; Dillon Beaverhead cities in Nevada. GARRISON, and Elsie FEHRING and her parents family history John B. are briefly covered by Diane.
Elsie FEHRING details

You can check on the James and Milton GARRISON ancestors at Rootsweb ancestry site for easy browsing. The GARRISON family changed locations through out the years. To name a few places there was Hamilton county, Ohio; Wapello, Iowa; North Carolina; New York; and Indiana co. Pennsylvania. [ Don't you just hate that when they mix the state names in a city town /state like that.] The maternal family ancestral lines are not as well covered, which is not all that unusual. Maternal lines BOLAR, HUSBAND, MEYER, FEHRING family history lineage.

I find that a review of the same family ancestral trees that I find on line whether it is from Ancestry.com or Family tree maker; they help verify, clear up any little details I might have missed.At the monent it is a bit disappointing that the family Tree information that I found at Roots web about the parents of Elsie -> John B. Fehring and Mary [Meyer ] is just as bare of the maternal line information as mine. In fact there is not even a mention of a former location, especially that at Galena, Jo Daviess county, Illinois.

If you desire more information on the family history Garrison lineage, be sure to click the links and you'll find the family history large and small trees.

Review of tombstones of John B. Fehring with wife and son.

2011-03-03T22:45:00.008-06:00

Guess what Review of the tombstones of John B. Fehring and his wife Mary. His son
William i B. is shown at the side of the tombstone. The stone was shown at another post.

Birth: 1828 [August 1828]
Death: Jan. 7, 1901
Madison County
Montana, USA

J.B. Fehring was one of the old-timers of Alder Gulch, died in his home at Adobetown, at the age of 75 years. Mr. Fehring came to this section of Montana in 1863 and resided at Virginia City and Adobetown ever since. He was quite wealthy and was highly respected by all who knew him.

Burial:
Nevada City Cemetery
Virginia City
Madison County
Montana, USA

Created by: Jane Barkell
Record added: Dec 26, 2008
Find A Grave Memorial# 32412374

Son William B. Fehring
Birth: 1874
Death: 1914
Burial:
Nevada City Cemetery
Virginia City
Madison County
Montana, USA

William actually died still single of a Diabetes coma at Chicago in Cook County, Illinois. But must have been brought back to be buried here. I found a copy of his death certificate at family search .org. I'll see if I can bring it here for you to see.

Created by: Jane Barkell
Record added: Feb 02, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 47475838

And of course nothing on her. The survival of this family is Elsie Fehring who married James Garrison. Who stayed on in Montana for some time.

Speculation: You know this is merely a tree from my speculation that Mary is mine. Marriage of 1874. Though facts on census say she was married about 1872. One census claims she is born 1852. Another census claims she was born 1847. Are there two John B. Fehrings sometimes born 1828, another time about 1829?. With wife born Oct. 1847 and another 1852. The 1900 census and 1880 census should be reviewed here, I think with those details.

Source:
https://www.familysearch.org/s/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpilot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Ftrk%3A%2Ffsrs%2Frr_650847384%2Fp1&hash=HloWXpZgU9zB10k5M56iYku8TUc%253D

Fehring Family Ancestry Research at Nevada, Illinois, Iowa

2011-03-03T07:18:00.032-06:00

Welcome back to another family history research and genealogy post.

I have for personal reasons been in a little depression slump the past week, I can easily bring myself out by some deeply immersed researching and browsing for family. So I dug in to FEHRING/ MEYER. Today, I have been busy since the rooster, crowed, I tell you.
That is the kind of ancestral research I love. Is it logical research, probably not? You know how that goes, right. [ I hope I am not the only one. ]

So let me fill you in. A little review at the same time.
I have mentioned a few times that a Mary MEYER had a license to marry John D. FEHRING at Galena, Illinois.

FEHRING, JOHN D - 
MEYER, Mary Intended spouse.
1873-02-14   D/ 117- JO DAVIESS, Illinois    
at Galena Jo Daviess county, Illinois.
Which could have been my 
Mary who immigrated in 1869 with Fritz or
Fred Meyer,
who is no stranger to us.
I am told that the marriage did not follow
through into another marriage record there.
She could have gone with him
to places others have moved to settle.

Remember my post of maps Highland, Greene county. I mentioned at that time of a Mary Fehring land owner there next to Fred. And I have given you glimpses of Meyer with Highland's land records for other years. At that time I was trying to find some connection of FEHRING and GARRISON. Just something that will maybe let me latch me onto a tree at ancestry.

Clinton county, Iowa.
Following Fehrings I have mosied around Sugar Creek settlement at Clinton county, Iowa. I understand some Fehrings have gone off to Mo. and Wi. Oklahoma. Some have settled in a couple of places in Minnesota. One of them was at Nobles county Minnesota. Possibly M& M meant them as he told me of relatives at Nobles county, Minnesota, but I am not sure.

The research I did was a little at familysearch.org beta and it mentioned Union county, Iowa.
Browsing a little at Union county, Iowa message board and maybe leaving a vague post is what I do best, so I shall do that soon.
Here is the juicy little document I have refered to over and over for my research the last few days. There are of course a few others that feed into this one.
But notice the area of Dillion, Montana.

I have followed up with a little research into census also doing google research a bit with it.
As far as I am concerned one can never have too many windows open at the same time.

"However, freddy the puter says no way, too many open windows makes me slow, cut down girl."

1865-1950 for James

Garrison

Residents at Madison county, Montana

Name:	James Garrison
Titles & Terms:
Event:	Marriage
Event Date:	03 Jan 1895
Event Place:	Dillon, Beaverhead, Montana
Age:	31
Marital Status:	Single
Previous Spouse:
Race:	White
Birth Date:
Birthplace:	State of Iowa
Estimated Birth Year:	1864
Father:	Melton Garrison
Father's Titles & Terms:
Mother:	Margaret Husband
Mother's Titles & Terms:
Paternal Grandfather:
Paternal Grandmother:
Maternal Grandfather:
Maternal Grandmother:
Additional Relatives:	X
Spouse:	Elsie Fehring
Spouse's Titles & Terms:
Spouse's Age:	18
Spouse's Marital Status:	Single
Spouse's Race:	White
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:	Madison County, Montana
Spouse's Estimated Birth Year:	1877
Spouse's Father:	John B. Fehring
Spouse's Father's Titles & Terms:
Spouse's Mother:	Mary Meyers
Spouse's Mother's Titles & Terms:
Spouse's Paternal Grandfather:
Spouse's Paternal Grandmother:
Spouse's Maternal Grandfather:
Spouse's Maternal Grandmother:
Volume/Page/Certificate Number:	it7 cn268
Film Number:	1905608
Digital Folder Number:	4351340
Image Number:	688

If you glance at my side margin below the tuit sign; you will find the family search ancestry of Jurgen Friedrich MEYER's children's birth dates. One of my Mary Meyer's birth date is 1847. [ It's possible she is hiding as Myer, Mayer, Mier, and heaven forbid as Meyers.] I guess yet another one commited that unforgivable sin with that 'S' on the end of MEYER; and so I had better search more for MEYERS from now on.

In the mean time John B. FEHRING [ Notice it is not a D] leads to Elsie FEHRING and her husband James GARRISON family history, whom I have spent a little time on researching his family history as well as HUSBAND. [ It's like blogs, one leads to another. ]
I also have found the location of several in locations of Madison county, Montana. Evidently GARRISON was a gold miner at Virginia city; Alder Gulch; maybe Bannick. Some of the family is buried at Nevada city, Montana. I found a very interesting website about the old western towns some of which became ghost towns. You may find that interesting, I found it very distracting! However just think of possible ancestors active in this old west life. We did those reinactions as a kid with our cap guns, hats and kerchiefs.

I shall browse the Nevada city Cemetery and a few other Virginia city cemetery listings.

RELAXING family history Research will continue on FEHRING, MEYER and GARRISON in all normal phases as well.
I am a bit sad about not being able to pin point my Mary with exact details. Am I wasting time doing this when this might not be her? I just get the details point to it being right!. This is the way I do it some days. No exactly professional genealogist methods. I do keep forgetting what I have learned about FEHRINGs. For that reason, I keep some information at the side margin. See some Fehring family researched by others there. I do have to review what others have to say about the families. I have a vague memory of Nobles county Minnesota family going to or coming from Montana or Oklahoma, so I will follow through on that hunch and see where it gets me.

I haven't had the opportunity to follow them to Nevada before via GARRISON, and so this trip is a pleasure.
I suppose I will keep this up and keep 'lil ol' blog updated on this family history research, so any of you can help me out, right?. Anyway, it helps to record as one goes.

All in all, I have a good feeling that I am a few paces forward, even though I don't know about this Meyer for sure as being the exact one I need. No I am not sure if the Meyer there in Nevada, and Elsie Fehring died early, but I am hopeing I gain more clues or that lucky detail that will further my search,

For some reason Alder Gulch, the area they first discovered gold keeps calling me, so I may take a browsing detour right now...
See you Later.

Note: Surnames found along the way, HUSBAND, DONEGAN,
Note: Latter day saints research beta suggested different spellings of Fehring, - Ferring, Fering, Fiering Fahring.

Further reading:
Along my journey I found the familyhistory website on DONEGAN, who were in Galena; Madison county, Montana, similar areas as my families.
http://exit78.com/
http://www.historyrhymes.info/2010/12/20/rocky-mountain-mining-towns-bannack-montana/
http://hawcreekoutdoors.com/blog/images-from-bannack008/
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/life/west-yellowstone-to-nevada-city-35611.html
http://www.uscemeteryproj.com/montana/madison/nevadacity/nevadacity.htm
Tons of stuff out there just google.

I appologize for a error of a click that published this post prematurely.

Genealogy - More on Naefke family history in Sharp county, Arkansas

2011-02-24T11:18:00.007-06:00

Marriage bond license for William Naefke - Family History from family search at latter day saints. New Beta presentation.

Groom:	William Naefke
Groom's Age:	31
Groom's Estimated Birth Year:	1878
Groom's Residence:	Worthen Township, Sharp, Arkansas
Bride:	Adele Grote
Bride's Age:	21
Bride's Estimated Birth Year:	1888
Bride's Residence:	Worthen Township, Sharp, Arkansas
Marriage Date:	25 Jan 1909
Marriage License Date:	20 Jan 1909
Marriage Place:	, Sharp, Arkansas, United States
Film Number:	1290006
Digital Folder Number:	4309472
Image Number:	00032
Page Number:	545
Source:	Arkansas County Marriage Records, 1837-1957

Groom's Name: William Naefke
Groom's Birth Date: 1878
Groom's Birthplace: Of Worth, Sharp, Arkansas
Groom's Age: 31
Bride's Name: Adele Grote
Bride's Birth Date: 1888
Bride's Birthplace: Of Worth, Sharp, Arkansas
Bride's Age: 21
Marriage Date: 25 Jan 1909
Marriage Place: Sharp Co., Arkansas
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M75075-1
System Origin: Arkansas-EASy
Source Film Number: 1290006
Reference Number: P545
............

It seems like repeat and I suppose it is, but they were two separate entries at family search.org. Under name Naefke. And there is a lot more there.

There are Unions in USA and the Old Guilds of GERMANY

2011-02-23T12:59:00.003-06:00

It will take several Posts and it will give many surnames. I hope you stay tuned.

Guilds of Germany involve shoe makers, tailors, wood workers, all kinds of masters at their trades.
Like married like. Usually a shepherd family married other Shepherd's daughters. The same rule probably applied with guilds.'

Surname Rieckens and Riecken and locations Bleckede and Stolpe

2011-02-23T09:21:00.011-06:00

Red alert family,
I have again made another mess at Ancestry in my family tree annexing. I hope to sort it out soon.

I have been busy doing some follow up, and I can say I am still not finished with Rieckens Riechens, Riecken. I do not have a name for the private Poster. The poster has many other families with similar information. At this time please take locations and the tree with a grain of salt. This tree information falls under Knoop, Ryan, Mann, Dye, Schmidt, Henze, Drusel, Wright, Golden { Mostly names M&M claimed we have. } So I am not finnished with them yet.

My Riecken[s] involve Schoop, Schenk, Ahrens, Meyer and villages, Seedorf, Dahlenburg, Ahndorf, Ventschau. Others.
1-- J[]rgen RRIECKEN
Birth : 1702 in Germany
Death : 29 Mar 1764 in Stolpe, Schleswig Hols
wife Elisabeth LILLE
[According to M & M in 1979 we do have surname Lilly or Lily]
Kind:
11a-- Claus Riecken

Birth : *2 Apr 1744 in Stolpe, Schleswig Holstein, Preussen, Germany
Marriage: No. ? #1737 on 27. Dec.1737
Age 35
Death : + 29 Jun 1824 in Stolpe, Ostholstein, Schleswig-Holstein
His Wife:

Comment on this
Magdalena Elisabeth SIECK
Birth: *26 Jun 1747 in Stolpe, Schleswig-Holstein, Preußen, Germany
Marriage: 1.Nov.1771

Marriage to Claus Riecken
Bornhöved, Segeberg, Schleswig-Holstein,
Death: +19 Sep 1834 in Pfeifenkopf, Stolpe, Schleswig-Holstein, Preußen, Germany
11b-- Hans Riecken -- *1738 –

There is more:

Comment on this
Mary Maria Dorothea SCHENK [She is Mine and ok, but not from Mecklenburg, I don't think. Born 1861, the rest is Unnown]
Birth : 20 Apr 1861 in Bleckede,
[Ludwigslust, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Germany]
(keep an open mind or grain of salt out of the wounds please
Death : 26 Apr 1916 in Iowa City, Wright, Iowa,**
Her father:
Heinrich Henry Schen[c]k
Birth : 1820 in Germany
Death : in Jackson, Iowa, United States
Her Mother :
Anna Sophia Fredericke RIECKEN
Birth: * 19 Jun 1828 in Stolpe,
Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Germany
Death: 28 Jan 1908 in Black, Posey, Indiana, ***

..................................................
Her mother according to Knoop tree:

Anna Sophia Fredericke Riecken
Birth : 11 Sep 1827 in Stolpe, Schleswig-Holstein, Preußen, Germany
Death ::2 Sep 1784 in Stolpe, Schleswig-Holstein, Preußen, Germany
Death 5 Dec 1873 in Stolpe, Schleswig-Holstein, Preußen, Germany
anna's mother according to Knoop tree:
Magdalena Dorothea Riecken
Birth : 29 Jul 1792 in ,, Germany
Death : to Asmus 14. November.1814

Marriage: to Asmus Riecken
Bornhöved, Schleswig-Holstein, Preußen, Germany
Schleswig-Holstein, Preußen, Germany
Magdalena's parents:

Father: Hans Jurgen RIECKEN
Mother: Magdalena THEDEN
Magdalena's 2nd spouse:
Nicholaus Claus Lienau
Birth : 28 Oct 1821 in Holpe, Schleswig-Holstein, Preußen, Germany
Death : 28 Mar 1886 in Black Twp, Posey, Indiana, USA
Children:
Anna Sophia Fredericke RIECKEN
1827 – 1908
Emilina C. LIENAU
1867 – 1955
.......................

Siek Parents:
Husband: Ratje Sieck
– 1780
Wife: Anna Schlüter
1709 – 1812

Another spouse name in the picture is name Helmer. We do have the name in our big family tree, but I am not sure if it is here.

There are obviously errors in any attachment I can make. and I did at Ancestry. I shall have to go back and delete a few things. However I want some names to remain. Just not in a attached state.

****My Juergen Friedrich Meyer born 1814 father is Johan Juergen Meyer from Radenbeck and his wife is Maria Elisabeth Behrens from Neetzendorf. She is not a Gumme. And Johan Juergen's father is Heinrich Christ. Meyer also a shepherd from Radenbeck. I think Christoph, rather than Christian.

Our Majority of Rieckens acccording to Gloria at Petesch Hoerschleman come from Windischthum, Bleckede, Prussia/Germany. Now they could be two different families. But some of their Riecken would have to have gone to Jackson county Iowa. Okay guys, I will have to fix it at ancestry before midnight. Nothing wrong with the author, who is only experimenting themselves. Which is obvious by an indecision of two different spouses names with same birth and marriage date.

Note : ** Why would she be dying there? Had she and her husband given up the home place?

Note *** why would Henry Schenk's wife die in Indiana. It's probably after his death and she went to live with her children. Census has to be viewed here as well as stones. She would be buried along with her husband!
Note : I do have a Sophia Rickens married to Michels, but the date is different than this Sophia.
My main source so far is Gloria Hoerschelman / Petesch, whose work can be verified in Germany.

Note: I must say that the bad, interpreted information wrong at ancestry does get taken and perpetuated, and annexed. I hold disclaimers on the pages about the wrong information, but I don't think people take the time to read comments. and the stories.

Read the comments.
You should people, You must!

How do you read your foreign language books? Genealogists

2011-02-08T21:08:00.017-06:00

My Intention today is to work with the scanned image below, which is now is a image file. Next I want to convert it into a text and then I would like to put it into my translator. I say this all with out double checking to see if translators take files. I know they take web pages. [Extraction of and Convert to text] I am sure Genealogists must do this all the time.

Well it's been awhile since I attempted this task, so who knows what Http has updated and my mind has forgotten.

No doubt you know this is no attempt to teach you anything. I hoping you can teach me!

Image b - a online edit with Picasa. I did increase pixels. But I wasn't able to read the print.

You can compare with the scanned image above to see the difference. At the scanning process I resized. I had to rotate the image. I had resolutions at 600. I can almost read it in it's small size. When I scanned it I adjusted it to be 8 x 10 photo. I wish I could have adjusted to 8x 10 web page, but that was not an option. It automatically changed my resolution to 72. Surprising, one has to develop talent while scanning images and text.

I know new technology and gadgets come out everyday, but I lack resources these days to just go buy something. I'll hang my head and look the other way, if asked to risk my computer with some potential virus. I suppose there is software with names I will need to know. My own scanner is maybe four or more years old. It's updated sometimes, and I should reacquaint myself to it's capabilities. I once thought I was able to change to text while in the scanning process, so I need to recheck on that under maybe advanced scanning. but updates or new printer, I no longer have that option. In either case I have to do it so I can still read the words clearly.

Image uploaded to picasa.

I thought I would take this time to ask you, how do you read your foreign language books. Say for instance you have a German book, How do you translate and read.

I have a copy here of a scan which is labeled boo.jpg. It was scanned and sent to picasa. saved to my documents. Opened in picasa, I am trying to open it in other methods, to see if I can change it to some form to enter into a translator.

I used to find it altered in my email programs, but no luck.

A book could have a hundred to two hundred pages. There has got to be a easier way than a method I have used which was to type it all out. ?

Have you found an easy method?

A little note:
I did see this website which mentions the process with software by name which will convert the text. http://www.ehow.com/how_5116053_convert-image-text.html

Http does have ocr--http://h71028.www7.hp.com/hho/cache/608037-0-0-225-121.html

Have You entered the sweepstakes? - The Ultimate Family History Journey Sweepstakes sponsered by "Who Do You Think You Are?"

2011-01-29T13:44:00.013-06:00

Can you imagine me or you winning the The Ultimate Family History Journey Sweepstakes in conjunction with its sponsership of " Who Do You Think You Are" Sweepstakes? " It's hosted by ancestry.com. [I should read more of the fine print and details.]

Can you imagine going to your Ancestors Homeland which in my case is Germany? More information to be gained and a chance to see the homeland for yourself. Imagine seeing the Dahlenburg - Oldendorf - Goehrde battle ground and the Royal game reserve at Roethen where grandpa Willy Meyer, Wilhelm Saucke, and the Schroeders worked. And the land they actually owned after working for others for so many years.

Sweepstakes winner gets-
Along with 20,00- dollars of travel expenses you get eight hours of consutlation time with an expert Genealogist and help from up to 5 experts in fields relevant to your fields of family history. World Deluxe memberships.

And we can enter twice a day.

It has me thinking, speculating with questions.

1. A question to fellow genealogists and bloggers. What path would you follow, if you won, where would you hope to go? Which family line would you choose and why?

11. A question to all family and readers, which do you think we need or want to know more about? Where would you like to see me go and find family. Surnames? Who? What homeland should we see? Radenbeck - Thomasburg, Neetzendorf, Eichdorf, Dahlenburg, Nahrendorf, and Oldendorf, Rothen, Dannenberg. Or home of the Heins at Bergen Celle? Or to France for Royers background?
Your imput welcome.

This little dream of winning has me thinking, speculating with other questions, which I'll save for next time.

Last Post and Jesse James Gang and a Website

2011-01-26T09:47:00.008-06:00

While doing my last post about Madelia and the Jesse James Gang members capture and the robbery ot the First national Bank at Northfield' I found and grew to admire this website by "death2urproductions LLc"idabout the Jesse James Gang members. It mentions details worthy of a Genealogist and well done as a historian. He has pictures and tombstones among other good resources donating to the truth.

Not only detail on those who were in the Robbery of the First National Bank at Northfield and the details of activity near Madelia, but he has other noted famous names here which could come in handy some day while your researching or writing.

You can read "about us" to learn more of the creators.

I hope you take time to check it out. See you later.

jo arootdigger

Website :
http://www.death2ur.com/northfield_minnesota_bank_raid.htmlcation

History of Madelia and Northfield, Minnesota with Jesse James Gang in old Newspaper

2011-01-26T08:06:00.010-06:00

Northfield in the media.
I wonder why the author or producers of the well known old tv show called the "Golden Girls" chose Northfield, Minnesota location as the location for Rose Nylund's [ Actress Betty White ] made up towns called "St. Olaf " and "Gustavus" where Rose was suppose to be from. The Fake towns were in fact names of colleges at Northfield location. Perhaps she or they had heard something about the members of the Jesse James gang activities there and the locations just stuck in their minds. [. ] Decorah Iowa and North field are known as good places to begin your research on your Norwegian descendants. Maybe they chose the location because Nylund Nyland is more of a Swedish name than maybe Irish ? [ Yes I looked up name origination, it always helps to browse it.] That's a mystery to solve another day.

The Meyer children attended public school in Madelia, so the news of the robbery at the town of Northfield and the apprehension of the members of Jesse James gangs near Madella had been told since primary grades. Once I heard about having surnames James and Young, in the family, I pursued the information about the gang quite a few years ago. I was relieved to learn our family were Youngs, and they were the Younger brothers.

Searching the News paper archives
Currently, I was searching for a 1945 - 1946 newspaper article at ancestry.com for a newspaper from Madelia, which might have had something about Herman Meyer's house fire for my lewisville minnesota blog, The Meyer home was thirty miles from Fairmont, Martin county and ten miles from St. James. Maybe about fifty from Mankato. I have been running the names of all but St. James into Ancestry newspapers in hopes of some article. [ It has amazed me how much the name of Madelia has been popping up.]

The newspaper article below titled "Bad un"s in 28.Sept.1876 - newspaper -The Constitution
[ from Atlanta Georgia ] in column six about the capture of some of the Jesse James gang was a real delight. It would be even better if it were from a Madelia or local newspaper, but I doubt any archives go back that far for Madelia. Maybe Mankato or Northfield or some other large city near there. Just a few weeks ago, I had been browsing the Minnesota Historical Society pictures and one particular picture with a small article about the pose that went out after the gang, and a picture of the of the Flanders Hotel in Madelia where the Jesse James gang members were seen. I remember reading that one person in that pose died.

Locations descriptions and Names
Of interest in the article of course is the location descriptions and the names.
I had read before of the name Sorbel of a Hanska area recognized some faces. similar to this news articles account about the young hero Oscar Oleson. The article at Minn state Historical collection mentioned that one of the posse - Charles Pitt had been killed.
One particular name in this article that I will pursue for more information sometime is the surname PITT. M&M had mentioned the surname Pitts to me. I knew some Pitts who had come around from Madelia, I think, to do the Meyer sheep shearing before Dewey quit raising sheep.

At times over the years, I had read something about the path the gang took and that they stopped at a Creek, etc. My curiosity had been caught. I wondered if they came up from the south,west or even the east and then which way would they travel on horse?. Would they ever have stopped at the Meyer little Creek. Gangsters were always after railroad Passengers and the railroad ran north and south not even a mile east of Sunnyslope Farm. However, I am not sure the train was not known to take passengers. [ One once that I know of in another newspaper article. ] If one reads and looks at the Minnesota Historical Reflection collections, one can see how open and undeveloped the land was at that time. I would say, more so than the area of Churdan Iowa surely was, when our ancestors moved into the Highland areas.

The good guys
It is amazing that we hear that such a bunch of bad guys could be so well liked by the public, yet there was talk of lynching. And I am proud to learn of the sense of fair play that those who held him captured in Madelia exhibited.

Historical reading
I hope you enjoy reading the clippings. and the Minnesota Historical links to Northfield and Madelia. Perhaps take the time to browse the Refection in the Minnesota Historical collection.
- If you have time, you can google for more information. For instance, I found one article which claimed the bandits chose the First National bank because the bank president was a former union officer. This information reflects back to their lifes history and attitudes of theirs towards their civil war years.

I wonder how well travelled that article in copies etc., was across America. Lots of historical tidbits on the gangs activities and life were added to our history of the event over the years. This the case when history of one region becomes every ones.

My Article Source :
http://search.ancestry.com/browse/view.aspx?dbid=6388&iid=news-ga-atlanta-theconst.1876_09_28_0001&rc=3931,2208,4053,2241;3884,2500,4012,2533;3665,3042,3802,3075;4060,3171,4216,3204;3941,3563,4034,3596;3981,3858,4051,3891;3723,3954,3789,3987;3806,4188,3961,4221;3791,4446,3921,4479;4490,2962,4653,2995;4391,2996,4559,3029;4485,5612,4623,5645&pid=459599873&ssrc=&fn=&ln=Fire+Madelia+Lewisville+Fairmont+Mankato+Minnesota&st=g

-Ancestry.com. The Constitution (Atlanta, Georgia) [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2002.Original data: The Constitution. Atlanta, GA, USA. Database created from microfilm copies of the newspaper.

More on Nyland or Nylund in Minnesota.
Swedish and MINNESOTA
NORTH FIELD, SWEDISH INSTITUTE
Ass kickin'

The Meyer Family at Highland, Greene county, Iowa

2011-01-18T10:01:00.020-06:00

By now, it's no secret to you that Frederick Meyer and Mary Schenk paved the way for the other Meyers to follow. Unless that mysterious brother in Oregon came first or at the same time.

It's no secret that after his marriage to Mary D. Schenk in 1882 that they went to Highland of Greene county, Iowa, to live. If your looking for him on the map he is in the upper right, a few sections over from the corner.

On the clipping of Fred Schroeders article about his first days to Greene county in 1883, just a year later after Juergen Hch. Frederick had settled, it said that he made his way through swampy grassy land. He made his home near Fred Meyer's.
[I really should do a time line.]

William Meyer in 1895 Census at Greene county

I happened to find the Churdan Village map
I have visited Churdan briefly, and believe me it is a charming small town with it's citizens of the the Irish; Scottish; and English heritage.

Editing to be expected.

2011 Meyer family Descendants - Genealogy Family History

2011-01-17T13:00:00.003-06:00

Welcome to New Year 2011 blogging about the Meyer family. I have mentioned Fred and William to you many times along with other well known ancestors. It's a new year and it's time to let the children descendants and their families history be known.Some of the children have been introduced to you already.

I should start with the oldest son. Juegen Hch. Wilhelm Meyer [born 1843] is no stranger to you. He may be known to you as Grandpa Willy married to Grandma Mary. Are you acquainted with his Daughter Minnie? You may have heard her referred to as Minnie [Wilhelmina Anna] Stolley. I've listed the children to make it easier for you. The [G] stands for born in Germany. The others America.

William and Mary Meyer Children
1. Johan Heinrich Wilhelm- Oldendorf [G]
1873 – 1952
2. Anna Meyer [Bennett] [ G]
1875 – 1969
3. Otto Albert Meyer [G]
1877 – 1877
4. Mary Wilhelmina Bertha Meyer [Nahnsen][ G]
1880 – 1 962
5. Herman Henry Meyer [G]
1881 – 1967
6. Henry William Meyer [G]
1883 – 1884 died in America after arrival.
7. Frieda Meyer
1885 – 1979
8. Emma Mary Elizabeth Meyer [Cain]
1886 – 1981
9. Wilhelmina Anna Mary Meyer [ Stolley]
1888 – 1976
10. Frederick Henry August Meyer
1890 – 1914
11. Louise Ella Alvina Meyer
1891 – 1909
12. Infant son Meyer
1893 – 1893
13. Lilly Emma Louise Meyer
1895 – 1976

Note: The name Wilhelmina name occurs several times in the family naming. Child # four has it as well. I think there is a good reason for it.
http://arootdigger.blogspot.com/2010/10/more-warnecke-1880-at-oldendorf.html
Meyer and other surnames Descendants at a reunion.
http://whatchamacallum.blogspot.com/2009/02/superbowl.html
I believe all of Wilhelm's children were named for family members of the past, even though they were baptised in Calhoun county with other people as god parents.

Minnie, child number nine on 8.jan.1908 married the Rudolph August Stolley that you see in my last post. - [Just click Older if it is not below this post.] The family history on that post revolves to the Anthony Lewis Martin family via the Descendants of the Laura Dorothea Stolley family. The tree can be viewed at Ancestry.com. There will be more to come on each Meyer child.

MEYER, STOLLE, STOLLEY, MARTIN, kRUSE, PETERS Minnesota and Iowa

2011-01-16T21:56:00.013-06:00

Now that we have started the New Year 2011 blogging about the children of J.H. William Meyer and Maria Heins we need to move on today to his daughter Wilhelmina Anna. Meyer Stolley? You may have heard her referred to as Minnie Stolley.

8. Emma Mary Elizabeth Meyer [Cain]
1886 – 1981
9. Wilhelmina Anna Mary Meyer [ Stolley]
1888 – 1976

Minnie, child number nine on 8.jan.1908 married the Rudolph August Stolley that you see below.

Rudolph August Stolley
Born: 7.Aug.1887
Davenport, Iowa, USA
Riverside, Fremont, Iowa
Died: 9 Dec 1945
Iowa City, Iowa, USA
-wife
Wilhelmina Anna Meyer
Born: 24.Sep.1888
Churdan, Iowa, USA
Died:

Rudolph's parents
John Frederick Stolley
Born: 18.Nov.1841
Hannover, Germany
-lived
Franklin, Washington, Iowa
Highland, Washington, Iowa
Died: 10.Jul.1924
Iowa City, Iowa, USA

His Mother: Magdolena Katherine Kruse or
Magdalena Catherine
Born: 12.Aug.1850
Germany
Died: 11.Aug.1914
Riverside, Iowa, USA
[ Parents of Magdolena Kruse - Henry Kruse and Dorothy Peters ]

The family history today revolves to the Anthony Lewis Martin family with his marriage to Laura Dorothea Stolley. The tree can be viewed at Ancestry.com.

Father: Samuel Martin born Germany
Mother: Mary Ann Skinner born Germany
-His son: Anthony Lewis Martin
Birth: 12.Dec.1873 - Troy, [Waldo, Maine,] USA
Death: 21.Apr.1943 - Madelia, Watonwan, Minnesota, USA
Marriage: 19.Dec.1901 - Riverside, Fremont, Iowa, USA
Parents: Samuel Martin, Mary Ann Skinner
Spouse: Laura Dorothea Stolley

Children Of Anthony Lewis Martin and Laura Stolley
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1. Irma Minnie Martin Olson [Ole]
Born: 17.Feb.1903
Riverside, Iowa, USA
Died: 16.Dec.1966
Rosemount, Minnesota, USA
They lived in a cute cottage of a house in Hazel Run, Minnesota. After her husband died, she must have gone back to school for more certification. I found her 1954 graduation commencement in great detail online from the University of Minnesota pdf file.

Spouse of Irma: Ole H Olson
Born: 14.Sep.1882
Kongsberg, Norway
Died: 28.Feb.1945
Lived Yellow Medicine county, Minnesota

2. Leathea Marinda. Martin Schenk [Edward]
died in Wisconsin around Wabena, Schwano, Wi
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Laura Dorothea [Dora] Stolley
Birth: 2 .march.1883 in Davenport, Scott??
Death 5. Dec. 1950 in Riverside, Fremont, Iowa, USA] Stolley
I also will have to check stones and vitals and census. So far census say 1883
The Meyer book contains a lot of this information, but not all of it.

Laura's father: John Frederick Stolley
Born: 18.Nov.1841 in Hannover, Germany
Died: 10. Jul.1924 in Iowa City, Iowa, USA
Her Mother: Magdolena Katherine Kruse
Born: 12.Aug.1850
Germany
Died: 11.Aug.1914
Riverside, Iowa, USA
[ Parents of Magdolena Kruse: Henry Kruse and Dorothy Peters ]
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Rudolph and Laura are brother and sister. See below.
John Frederick Stolley and Magdolena Katherine's Children.
........................................................

1. John Stolley
1877 –
2. Minnie Stolley
1880 –
3. Laura Stolley
1883 – 1900 census lists this age.
4. Anna Stolley
1885 –
5. Rudolph August Stolley
1887 - 1945

_His wife:
Wilhelmina Anna Meyer
Born: 24.Sep.1888
Churdan, Iowa, USA
Died:
Child of Juregen H. Wilhelm Meyer and Maria Dorothea Heins.
.
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I hope It is clear. Without a chart or software, I wonder sometimes.
There will be more information on these two and their spouses at a later time. Because we need to bring in the Wieland family. I think that is enough on Stolley, Stolle and the Martin family for today. Let me know if there is more to add on, or errors, etc.
Thanks for coming by.
just me jo arootdigger
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Note: There is more than one tree and a few sport the wrong dates
*Spouse: Laura Dora Stolle [ Dora I suppose because Her name has been spelt Dorathy ]
B: 12.Dec.1873
D: 21.Apr. 1943
also I have seen Locations where the location noun next to it might not mean county. Such as Iowa city, Wright, Iowa.

For more reading, how about a personal story about Irma Martin Olson?.
http://lewisvilleminnesota.blogspot.com/2011/01/genea-blogger-came-up-with-personal-way.html

Following Family History and Genealogy Bloggers Friday

2011-01-14T09:19:00.007-06:00

This my First attempt to follow on Friday.
Many moons ago, I figured out how to find other bloggers with common interests. I am sure the rest of you know the secret, so I won't bore you with the details. I was following those of genealogy last night, and this morning I tried family history. I used to bookmark some sites I liked now and I follow them, and sometimes add them to the blog roll if they have features which will not allow me to bookmark. Or sometimes it's just difficult to find them, because they don't leave a very good trail of bread crumbs, so I can visit them again.
I observed while cruising, that a great deal of family history bloggers were from England, Australia or New Zealand. And western states, and eastern states Florida, Tennessee, Texas, Not all that much from the mid west, and that's probably due to the fact they're busy shoveling snow or sitting in the basement, because of tornadoes. Most of the lady bloggers had an interest as well with crafts and decorating. Just as my find for Friday does.

My find to share today is
from this blog address-- http://cmgurney.blogspot.com/
I know most bloggers of genealogy detest people taking content from their pages, even if you have followed them on Friday, whereas it once was more acceptable for decor bloggers. I believe I am the cut and paste queen, but not so obviously today. So I will try and tell you in my own words and with links what you will find there.
First of all Caroline Gurney from Caro's Family Chronicles belongs to Society of Genealogists that puts out a book with a darling picture of a child on it's cover, called "My Ancestor Was A Bastard." I intend to look and find out what the story is on that one. There are many more delightful books at that link. [ Hopefully one on the Red Cross worker..]

Maybe your like me and you gravitate towards those people with humor, so I thought you might enjoy her first post on the page. " 10 things my ancestors did to annoy me". Some of us have some annoying ancestors. Her first onehit me as similar to my situation. They settled where three counties meet. My Webster, Calhoun and Greene counties of Iowa meet near Farnhamville. So I get it.[ Though maybe mine has a little more distance between them than hers.] Some day I'll have to see if she mentions any surgeon Gurney in California. husband of my[Lois] Carter descendant.

She has been busy restoring a 300 year old house and blogging about that as well as her other blogs - This old house; The Sodbury Blog; Caro's Place; and carosfamily.com She is from Chipping Sodbury in South Gloucestershire. Caroline is a history graduate from Bristol University and a former diplomat and civil servant, involved in teaching computing and family history with hobbies of family history, computers, blogging since may 2007 and sudoku. Besides being married with two grown-up children. Like many of us she has a personal site, "devoted to all the things that make life good" that we need to just express ourselves.

She follows Genea Bloggers, Dr Bill, Ancestry.com blog, Ancestry Insider among others.
Her posts are informative, has tips for research, at times amusing, so I would say your time is well spent Following the blog with Caroline at

Caro's Family Chronicles

Note: There was no feed for Follow. But you can bookmark the site.

Old Newspaper tidbits for Thursday.- History

2011-01-13T09:24:00.013-06:00

Have you as a family researcher gone to the old newspapers in the region of your ancestors?

Today I found myself looking for some information at Greene county on several ancestors. I was very distracted by all the good information and interesting articles.

Thursdays Interesting tidbit
All is not lost. Here's the tidbit for the day, which was put forth in the newspaper of Greene county The Iowa Reporter on January 1st 1908. Found at Ancestry.com.
The article starts out by saying
"Owing to the popularity just now the Schwastika or good luck cross as a ornament of personal adornment and usefulness we give a brief history of this beautiful symbol."
It goes further into how it goes back to earlier than the Christian era and used in later years in Europe. [ I didn't know that, I thought Hitler was just a clever artist. I forgot that I have seen it in design of one of my Indian made purses, and maybe other art.]

Then there was a huge amount of black ink damage to the appearance of the rest of the little bit left of the article. I saw something that may have said 'building of America'. So interest aroused. Off to blogosphere I went.

The name “swastika” comes from the Sanskrit word swastika, meaning “lucky” or “well being.” It is generally used on people and things to denote good luck or wish well being. It goes by many names in many different places: hook cross, crooked cross, angled cross, sun cross, sun wheel, hakenkreuz (German), among others.

Since the 1930's the use has been a signification with Nazism and white supremacy in the western world but with a slight change. .They not only stood stood it up diagonally and placed it in a circle rather than running it four-square, and gave it their brand-logo colour scheme of black, white, and red, thus making THEIR swastika a national seal,
They had reversed the swastika or rotated it visually backwards and in the end it stood for much more 0opposite the non-Nazi swastikas of varied colour and form one finds all around the world.

"The Mound Builders inhabited the Ohio River Valley and the Cliff Dwellers lived in the Southwestern United States; however, both did use the swastika, as did the Mayas of Mexico. Furthermore, although the swastika may look like four "L's" to one who uses the Roman alphabet, in Greek it forms four Gammas ("G's"), in Hebrew it can be seen as four Daleths ("D's"), and among the non-literate people of North America, it corresponded to no letters at all. Thus the ascription of Luck, Light, Love, and Life to the amulet is simply an Englishman's work "

The swastika can be traced back to the Neolithic period - Bronze age, which is about 11,500 years. It’s past and present are deeply rooted primarily in Eastern religions although there are many examples of it in other religions. Long before it had any negative connotation, it was popular in religions and cultures including: Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Chinese and Japanese art and many others. Swastika were used as the specific emblem of Ganesha, the Hindu god of good luck, who is also represented as an elephant. WE see much use of the elephant in many forms these days.

Modern 1800's - 1900's day use.
One writer says they have seen the use of the swastika in domestic ornament as fairly common. in the 19th century. the writer says a mail order bride from Poland came with married in a beautiful white wedding dress, covered all over with embroidered swastikas, a lucky logo..
But this idea that directionality is important in the history of swastika usage is demonstrably untrue: counter-balancing (bilaterally symmetrical) arrays of clockwise and counterclockwise swastikas are common in both ancient and modern Indian art. Pursuing the ancient examples of Left and right turning of the swastika of virtually of all past cultures of ancient monuments and steles with it was a failed attempt to reverse the negative reaction to the swastika. found in old artifacts.

No matter how pure the concept was before, and claiming it stands for that, one mans leadership did change the connotation difficult to get past. And actually,some places forbid the use of the Swastika.
--The use of the swastika or any Nazi symbol, their manufacture, distribution or broadcasting, with the intent to propagate Nazism is a crime in Brazil as dictated by article 20, paragraph 1, of federal statute 7.716, passed in 1989. The penalty is a two to five years prison term and a fine.
- In Panama the symbol rrepresented an Octopus.

This author says

Some people believe that the display of any sort of swastika should be forbidden because it is offensive to Jews. From first-hand experience, i can assure you that dozens of elderly German Jews i personally know who lived through or escaped the holocaust, were and are well aware that the swastika pre-dated the Nazis and do not consider it a Nazi symbol.

One thing most of them have learned -- and have taught to me -- is that RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE is a key to preventing future holocausts. Therefore they honour and respect the religious iconography of others. including the Jains and the Hindus, who revere the swastika as a symbol of a symbol of long life, good health, and good luck, and the special symbol of the Hindu elephant headed god Ganesh.

Her mother who fled Poland said it was just wrong for Hitler and his men to use the symbol wrongly.
In further thinking of tolerance of evil symbols. I recall that the panama region natives say it symbolized the octopus that created the world. Perhaps to me it symbolizes a book burner man like an octopus of many hands of power and the things he could do if given the means. Thus to me it has become a symbol to watch, listen, read, and speak, write, preserve our important freedoms. One must reidentify the symbol as Christians' victory over death by an octopus symbolism of the powerful octopus of an evil man. Maybe I can let it be my substitute symbol reminder to myself as a reference to the way Christians used the symbol with it during Romanesque and Gothic eras..

That interesting thursday tidbit is a tad controversial about the swastika use, kind of like religion in schools. Besides the fact it progressed from tidbit. Opinions are everywhere. So much to read and u tube too.. I am sure it affects each of you differently. I am open to your opinion.
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For Further reading from Blogosphere sources:
More on Controversies over pre-1930 designs here
http://www.dpjs.co.uk/swasticross.html
http://www.holocaust-trc.org/wmp14.html
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Swastika.html
http://brokensecrets.com/2010/10/18/the-swastika-was-once-a-symbol-of-good-luck/
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/geometria_sagrada/esp_geometria_sagrada_5.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X4WlMg234I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXwwkgSrIsU
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.military/browse_thread/thread/645a83732cf07a0d/9ec6c08d8afa61b9
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.military/browse_thread/thread/645a83732cf07a0d/9ec6c08d8afa61b9
http://books.google.com/books?id=do-ugt267IUC&pg=PA190&dq=swastika+good+luck+cross+finland&hl=en&ei=6ykvTeDXAsP-8AbVo9ydCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDkQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=swastika%20good%20luck%20cross%20finland&f=false
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIeC2WhD4xc
http://aleximreh.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/swastika-in-the-vinca-script-6000-7000-bc/
http://unitedcolorsofindia.blogspot.com/2011/01/sacred-symbol.html
http://www.muskogeehistorian.com/2010/09/camp-gruber-again.html
http://goddesschess.blogspot.com/2010/10/evidence-of-spiral-formed-settlements.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_use_of_the_swastika_in_the_early_20th_century
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
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2011-01-06T09:03:00.001-06:00

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Not a good thing, -- Looking for copyrighting.

2011-01-05T08:47:00.010-06:00

I don't believe the discovery of Website Description "Every Website Matters" is a good thing. It has my latest post there, and I am sure my last one will be noticed.?? This makes me very uncomfortable! His is copyrighted!

However, the good thing is that the comment about how many ranks and views our blogs get is exciting; because it means we google Bloggers get our information out there to those of our relatives in the dark about our families histories, and thus might find us.

At the top at the right it says to leave comments about the website with my name. And I did try, but so far I have not gotten through. Then at the bottom of the page it offers a script to embed in a persons blog which more or less says this, cause i changed it a bit:

Let akiui Others nkjhghjk Know:
To link to gtyhujiklkj this page from your site yghjikol please copy lkjh and paste the hjk code below to your poijhgfjkllkjhg homepage to which I now have added abc code to break it:

arootdigger';lkhjgfdfghjkl;.blogspot.com websitelkiujtfdsfghjkl description'p;hyugtfghjl

The above kljhgftyui will display as the iujhgfghjkaddress in the blog with mine:
[And again it uses mine with its name.]

Then it has a little bubble at top right about Bulk submissions .cum about directories. Which is probably not a good thing? Money is mentioned there and many websites.
I do tend to have to many cached posts. I hope to be more careful. Evidently people can hijack them somehow. I would like to know how.

I think this means I should contact google adsense. I should seriously find some kind of copyrighting. I am considering free services if there is such a thing. I am going to check Cindies list first.

But I will take any suggestions you have. I am uncomfortable that they urge others to use that small script embed in their blogs or pages.??

I have my information output for my relatives. Most people are free to follow me.

Note:
I made a comment on a few blogs who were on the descriptions. I had hoped to see what they know about them. Randy Seaver from Genea - Musings was kind enough to get on his white knight horse to respond to a lady in distress. He more or less said there was nothing to worry about as far as their doing the descriptions of our blog. I think what he said was that a good part of it in my case is rating Blogspot.com. Just as they did with rootsweb and ancestry.[ One belongs with the other].

My Genealogy Blog Traffic -- Website Description Added Their Address Next To Mine

2011-01-04T13:05:00.011-06:00

Over New Years getting ready to post, I happened to see something that caught my attention. So I browsed the Internet to see what I could find under my code name "A rootdigger". It was an interesting search. I discovered several things.
I learned a few things.
- I still don't understand why some blogs stand out and others don't.
- I am not sure if I should even post their name, but then how would I inform you.

I found that I had been on Follow Friday at Apples blog on Dec. fourth. Had I been current, and a dutiful little follower, I would have seen it. Unless I just forgot. But I had not read much for a greater part of December. I usually did that on Fridays. But my days off were few and if I had one they were so scattered and had to be used to get ready for the holidays. I did get caught up in doing a similar to GeneaBloggers Christmas advent Calender posting at my Lewisville.com blogpot. That's my excuse and I am sticking to it.

- I certainly learned I must be current with reading.
- Once reading I thought I saw something that said I was tagged for a Blog approval award, but I asked, and no reply, so not sure, I left it. [ I'll look again later]. If you know anything about it please tell me.'
-This year I do plan to do my Follow on Friday. But that means I will have to do my reading sooner.

WEll what else did you see, you ask.
It is a bit of a puzzle to me. as to what I saw in Website description and what it means. Here is the address they used.
http://www.websitedescription.com/arootdigger.blogspot.com

First off, I should say that I have discovered that my blog is not the only one they have used online, you will have to see yourself, if they have used yours. I just don't remember which ones I saw. They use your blog website Ip address, and they claim to know your rank, your link or back link history. They list about ten or more of your blog links. Such as when we comment on each others blogs. Etc. They also say what my blog could be worth. but do not claim that to be, so if I were to sell it. My husband think they meant google blogspot and not necessarily mine.. However, everyone blog name is told different ranks and linking

They make reference to Alexa and Whois places for their information..
-I wanted to learn more about information put out reviewing my blog, wouldn't you yours?
-So far with the browsing, I have done, I haven't found the location of their source. Even at the Alexa or Whois sights I failed to find a route to my blog information. I suppose I could ask them.

It Gives google orange blog symbol first. It uses my address blogspot address right next to theirs. It says this":

Let's start with the basic details for this domain, which is located at 66.102.7.191 with blogspot.com hostname. The site is described as: A useful resource to visit. There are plenty of terms associated with this site . Alexa ranks it among 8 top sites in the world.
You can get an idea about the traffic by reading further. It has a pagerank 6 and 430,891 backlinks. It received approximately 765,082 daily pageviews and has a potential to earn over $2,695. A site like this, if grows to its maximum potential, might sell for $4,004,514 but that's of course is just an estimate and does not mean it would ever sell for that amount.

They must mean google blogspots gets the 765,082 daily page views intotal, because My two blogs counters last week each stated about a hundred views. No where near that total of 700,000.

Looking into Technorati last week, I noticed that our Genealogy subject title is not even listed. It has changed from what it was a few years back. It certainly puts your mind into perspective there. I suppose we are under what subject family for some of us and technology maybe for others?
-I Question whether I should claim my blog there, just to read the information. Have you put in claim in for yours. I did see some very well known genealogy blogs there.

Well anyway, you should see, if they have used your blog. It might be worth a look.
-If you know anything about this, would you tell me? I would like to understand a little more about that website.
I would like to see for myself or verify some of their information.

- This next year I need to learn more about the technology of blogging and traffic marketing. And apply some of it towards my blog.

Maybe there is a better way to keep track of ones blog than just random googling the blogosphere. I will have to figure this out.

Have fun with your search of your own blog.
--Will you let me know if the website description that used mine, have used yours too?

"Frohes Neues Jahr" - Happy New Year

2011-01-01T10:21:00.006-06:00

"Frohes Neues Jahr"
Rebirth or change like the butterfly, it is a new year.

I hope it is happy in your new little world. We had rain yesterday, which meant the streets were so icy. when I left from work last night, I thought I would have to crawl up the hill to my car. My shoes just did not manage well on ice. Soon, I learned to lean forward with my weight [ one advantage of it] and do tippy toes kind of walk.
I just hope those who went out of town, got safely home.

Ahhhhh. After safely to the car, and some hard ice scraping off my windows, I was on my way home. Sitting in my nice big soft chair with my new purple Snuggie, I thankfully did some browsing, and thinking of future blogging, while munching on cheese, salami and crackers [no wine, Ill save that for here - whine. tee hee] Then off to bed missing the ball dropping and Happy New Year cheers.

From that old year browsing, to changes for the new year; I have decided to do a few more Postings on Meyer Descendants along with the ancestors. I wouldn't mind finding Meyer family along with Luhmann in America, whether it's Texas, Oregon or elsewhere.

So that is what happened in my corner of the world. Any thing fun in yours?

Happy New Year

2010-12-31T13:18:00.001-06:00

Enjoy, be safe and be happy. See you the next new year with more of the same ol and hopefully new and different.

It is not Snowing.

2010-12-26T12:06:00.002-06:00

It is not snowing. We have seen flakes floating like a snow Globe for the last three or four days. Christmas is now past for me.
Elvis sings Winter wonderland.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrVfJBdOX5E&feature=related

Christmas is over. We have twenty some inches. We do not need anymore!

Are you looking for German Christmas Music

2010-12-25T21:11:00.008-06:00

This website may have some for you. enjoy. I happened to see it today.
http://www.cs.umb.edu/~alilley/xmas.html

Merry Christmas to you.

Frohe Weihnachten an alle

Is it Frohe Weihnachten
or Frohliche Weihnachten?. [Fröhliche Weihnachten] Frohliche Weihnachten is the way it's said in proper German. Frohe Weihnachten is a bit less formal and you'd use it with friends and people you know well.

Frohliche Weihnachten would be seen on Christmas cards, it's the way you'd say it to strangers, your parents, grandparents, etc. They mean the same thing however.

Now the question is, do I know you well?

Source : Yahoo Answers

More:
http://www.amazon.com/Frohliche-Weihnachten-H-Schweizer/dp/B000003JSN

Remember the Vienna boys choir?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVVxJQCDCLE

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weihnachten
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weihnachten&ei=bWsXTZviBc2nnwfvtOmDDg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CEQQ7gEwBg&prev=/search%3Fq%3DFrohe%2BWeihnachten%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1G1GGLQ_ENUS303%26prmd%3Divns

Amanda NAEFKE and Elmer KUHLMAN, William Kuhlman

2010-11-24T08:00:00.005-06:00

Elmer and Amanda,Kuhlman with William.
Lived in Lewisville, Watonwan county, Minnesota- USA
Amanda and Elmer Kuhlman
Her Mother was Adell Grote and father William Naefke from St Peters church area in Calhoun county, Iowa.
For a time the William Naefke family lived in Lewisville area.

Have a nice Thanksgiving!

2010-11-23T13:39:00.005-06:00

Thanks giving is soon to be here. Just a quick comment before I duck. What were those pioneers thinking. Surely they would have preferred to have the thanksgiving sooner. Before all the snow and ice and frozen ground. I could be much more thankful when it's good weather and warmer. And not putting anyone to any danger in travel. What were they thinking.?

I hope Holiday preparations are going well for you. Maybe you will still find time to read. If not find your way back, I have a few surprises for you

A sneak peak - My French HeirItage -Genealogy

2010-11-22T11:17:00.005-06:00

Yes I have a little french Heritage. I had been told over the kitchen sink one day as a preteen that both sides of the family had some, but it seems dad was dragging in his recovery of the information . Mom acknowledged it immediately. I have to admit it became a huge part glamorized by myself. If you were referenced to any kind of Joan with french heritage, wouldn't you?

Nothing more was said then of where. It didn't matter. From that day On, I loved anything french.
As I was reviewing the work of one of my Californian PETERS relatives; I decided to pursue a bit more. I had noticed at rootsweb- world connect another Peters tree who were claiming Reim and area that Joan of arc had in her history. I let it go until I looked again last winter into LODES / JASPER tree briefly. It was then that I found the area to be called La garde Meurthe et Mosell department of Lorraine. i watched the little green leaves turn and turn at Ancestry. The Royer family went a good deal further back with many connections. I would like to know more why they immigrated, how they managed the revolution and the wars. There were so many in that region. I believe them to be Methodist and some did marry Roman Catholic. so maybe a history too of the religion would be good to know, since I am sure it played a part in history.

I am fascinated, and well there is so much geography and history to learn and of course pass along.

Today I was caught up in Marie Antoinette fantasy and her parents HAD Lorraine heritage??? [ I will look, just YOU wait and see] I stumbled upon this little tidbit and website to pass along to you today. And I know it is only a drop in the bucket. but it pertains to Germany as well as France. In the time span of 1871 to 1819 - IN parts of this area of department of Lorraine territory belonged to Germany. The villages had two names, that were known in French and the German version. You can find an index of the differences here. Notice there are several pages.http://www.genealoj.org/ENtexte/page18.html
Here is the index.
http://www.roelly.org/~genealogie/entraide/villagesad.htm

According to that we find the town name of Lagarde to be Gerden. Thus the home of my French/ German ancestor Matilda ROYER daughter of Jean Francois ROYER and mother Barbe Agathe GRANDMANGE [31 Jan 1796 at Meurthe et Mosell Department of Lorraine France - 1 Sep 1852. Death place was French Village, St.Clair Illinois.] who married Louis Barcum in Island Grove Jasper , Illinois. [Barcom also has a french version of the name found in Canada.]
............................................................................

More Genealogy tidbits to come.
1871 - 1918
During this period, most of Moselle belonged to the German Empire. The Birth-Marriage-Death records were first written in French and eventually in German. They can be found in the Town Halls and also in the "Archives Départementales de la Moselle" at Saint Julien lès Metz.
In the early days of the country side before the revolution there are good research on the people in the location. It's found in a few books. Because there were many Jews in this area there is a good accounting of them and habitants. They had to pay Barncas tax, a safety taxes and that helps account. It's amazing to read that they were not allowed to live in some towns like Nancy. More on all that another time.

Schoop, Ahrens, Schenk, Michels, Rieckens, Bergmann - WE ARE PROGRESSING WITH OUR EIGHT + FARNHAMVILLE COLONISTS-

2010-11-19T09:47:00.023-06:00

One-Two Meyer -FRED OR FRITZ, & Willie or William
3-Several Seil,
4-Naefke,
5-Grote,
6-Several Schroeder ,
7-Saucke,
8-Mosel,
9-Luhmann,
+ Ahrens, [ Schenk, Michel, Rieckens, Riechen(s) ]
[Lusmann, Dohrman]

In the last post before last I wrote about an article I found on-line which mentioned Ventschau of the area Tosterglope. then I clarified our Bergmann connection. So Today, I should follow through with more on Those of the Schenk/ Ahrens ad Michel families from there.

Eventually, rather than send you off to some page, which I will need a password for, I will simply give the information as a chart.

In the mean time please enjoy the work of Gloria Hoerschelmann. She actually visited in Germany and spoke to remaining family. She has designated trees
Petesch, Schultz, Schoop, Schroeder trees at ancestry.com. Others have same and more. However, some of hers contain more of Ahrens, Michels or Schroeder than others. Now she has combined the works of Our Mark Kuhlman who graciously provided so much information for us in pages further back, and my information I put in about Mae Meyer a descendant of J.H. Friedrich Meyer. But that does not reflect in the attachments you would find at ancestry with at her tree attachments, which I share here. That work was so superbly done by Verl Matthews [side photo] with absolutely great work continued with Matthews tree and the Nahnsen family tree.

As I do this big undertaking of giving you information, I will give you the source - of the genealogists who did the research and my information that I have added on.

So now go ahead and browse starting with the first part SCHOOP family coming from Seedorf, which she says is a third district of Dahlenburg.

Second Part of Schoop family history.

Even though it is a place by Dahlenburg, you may see the family attending the Nahrendorf church shown above. Remember Nahrendorf church inclueded many small villages of the area and is connected with the Dahlenburg church. From time to time, there will be mention of Nuedlitz where in fact my Seil and Korn worked. Nieperfitz, and Muecklingen where several families besides Henry Seil and his sister were from.

As I have said many times, we cannot forget the GROTE connections in those areas tying into this family! Trust me they are there. Obviously, if we see the SCHROEDER we know SAUCKE, WOLTERS, BUSCH, DAETZ. If there is AHRENS and GROTE, then we have NAEFKE.
Voila! The early colonists to Farnhamville.!!!

Oh what a bunch of tangled threads in a web it seems to be. But I will help further as I point out some details, but maybe it should wait until the next time. A chart of some kind is coming soon.
Oh what a wonderful life!

For further info contact me. IF YOU KNOW MORE, PLEASE SHARE WITH ME!
I have given you links, but there are so much more info in both blogs which you can find three ways Archives and older or search box and google web search.
I am sorry the attachment info does not translate under the standard method of translation.
just me jo arootdigger

Source: -Unknown who owns Tosterglope - Ventschau sign.But thanks.Perhaps at Ventschau.de
-Ancestry.com helped me get to GloriaHoerschelmannPetesch .

Ventschau - Genealogy -Schenk, Rieckens, Bergman

2010-11-18T13:53:00.010-06:00

Did you see Maria Elisabeth Bergmann born 28.Dec.1795?. She ties to Schoop, Schroeder, Rickens, Schenk, Michels, Meyer, Indirectly to Luhmann from Meyer and on and on in the Wendland area and usa. probably in a circle when all is said and done!

I did have a BERGMAN mentioned in one of my church records in regards to my Schultz Meyer family at Neetzendorf. I do so wish I knew more about that family..

Wow. Huh? I can't count all the times I see the villages Boitze, Ahndorf or Fladen, all areas of Dahlenburg mentioned. Did she mention Neetzendorf the home of our Schultze and Meyer. Some people were employed in Boitze, and others lived there, etc. There has to be connections to Nahrendorf, Nüdlitz, Oldendorf, Ahndorf, Buendorf, Boitze und Barscamp, Other villages of Tosterglope. Some areas of Bleckede going to Neetze and up into the Luneburg church district.

In fact to stretch the wow factor, I know our area extends to Mecklenburg,down and over to [alt] Garge, Schutschur, Neuhaus, and further to Hitzacker area, and Danneberg.

I am so glad I have dealt with colonists rather than just one or two families and their branches. I would never have known the extent of the blood lines. And much more to know. How amazing life is!

Note of Sources:
The tree attachment is from Gloria Hoerschelmann/Petesch at ancestry.com. She works on her genealogy mostly during the summer. The leaves began turning as I started to examine Ahrens and my Michels. Michaels. - aka Millman. You can contact her at ancestry or give me a comment and I will get to her.

As they say, you only have to begin.

QUESTIONS, JUST ASK.!

Ventschau -Bleckede - Genealogy -Schenk

2010-11-18T12:29:00.004-06:00

From aida online:
Hann. 74 Bleckede W Reg. II Loc. 5 G
# 60
1. SCHENK, Heinrich Christian Wilhelm, Bleckede
2. Ventschau
3. Fuhrmann
5. SCHENK, Catharine Sophie Margarethe, geb. Schröder;
SCHENK, Sophie Friederike Dorothee;
SCHENK, Jürgen August Wilhelm;
SCHENK, Johann Heinrich Wilhelm;
SCHENK, Marie Dorothee;
SCHENK, Marie Dorothee Margarethe (alle 5 Kinder unter
14 Jahre alt)
7. Iowa
8. Sept. 1866
..............................................................................

Hann. 72 Bleckede
# 291
1. SCHENK, Heinrich, Bleckede
3. Frachtfuhrmann
8. vor Sept. 1867
10. ob mit oder ohne Familie ausgewandert, geht aus der
Akte nicht hervor; war 30. 03. 1859 als Vormund
für die minderjährigen Kinder des verstorbenen
Burgdorf, Albrecht Joachim Wilhelm in Kleinburg
vereidigt worden

More to come.

Hier kann man sich gut erholen -Sweet little School project website in Luneburg - Genealogy - Ventschau.

2010-11-17T09:38:00.019-06:00

Hi,
I hope you have been having a delightful day.
I have been having a delightful day so far. I found this cute, school project, sweet, informative website while browsing for a surname RADEL. [ The name that actually shows up was Frau Kappe-Radel] I enjoyed it so I thought, I would share it today. The web site doesn't pertain to our relatives really, but he does mention that he lives in the village of Ventscahu, the village in Tosterglope location Bleckede [ by Dahlenburg] does deserve genealogy interest. It has been especially in my thoughts these days as I review data of Seil, Schroeder, Michels, Millman, AHRENS [ from Mucklingen] and Juergen Heinrich Christoph SCHENK [18.Jan.1828 ; [Brother, Johann Hch ChristianSchenk geb. 29.Aug.1832- both died Iowa USA];Another brother Johann Juergen Heinrich 5.Mzi.1838. Maria Elisabeth Bergmann [oo - Hans Hch Wilhelm Schenk ] of Boitze daughter of Hans Juergen BERGMANN. SCHENK had married BERGMAN
[ Dahlenburg ] in Boitze and the parents resided VENTSCHAU. There are numerous other surnames of our Luhman, Meyer ancestors in Ventschau. Etc.

Now for the LANZIUS at Johanneum Lüneburg. You definitely can google it and therefore have the opportunity to use the translator as I did. When you translate, often times what happens is that the villages and names are translated to English. In this case Ventschau translates to mean Nation. I think for some reason, that's pretty neat.

The young lad who wrote the material and lives there is only thirteen years old. He and his family love pets like birds, pheasants, rabbits, etc. He mentions school and his teacher. Translation says up until now, he has had good teachers???? [ lol. [ A little tidbit of information is the name Bergman at his school. Some thing to check on. ]

His family came from Luneburg, which explains the name Lanzius, which I don't think blends in with names of the olden days of this area. He lived in Ventschau. I noticed up at the top of the page it says - Johanneum Lüneburg the area students, home page or student body, AG site. I suppose for their privacy, there is no email provided. Some other students have had their contact withheld.

I am going to follow through and take a glimpse at other articles by other students with surnames of Fable, Heitsch in hopes of anything on locations and same as my ancestors. Its kind of fun to see school assignments carried through. It is interesting to note that such a classroom project can be anywhere.

He says " Please visit the site once of Nations ". Hier kann man sich gut erholen. Here you can relax.

I might write to the student body or the boy. Lets see what should I say, besides the fact that I enjoyed reading.Maybe some day he will be a future blogger.
Go ahead and continue on to an even greater day.
just me jo , arootdigger

Further reading for more information on the school project or the school:
http://www.johanneum-lueneburg.de/

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://haftendorn.uni-lueneburg.de/u1/gym03/homepage/schueler/abi2007/julian/julian.htm&ei=jfrjTPX2BIaOnweT4InNDg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CB8Q7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dradel%2Bventschau%2Bfamilie%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Ds%26prmd%3Div

http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&source=hp&q=johanneum+luneburg&btnG=Google+Search
and map location of the school Johanneum Lüneburg [inLuneburg.]
http://www.johanneum-lueneburg.de/
[jojo network]

http://www.art-ball.org/keep_rolling_city.php?city=ventschau

http://www.lueneburg.city-map.de/01030000/tosterglope/ventschau

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.tosterglope.de/index.php%3Fid%3D37&ei=NifkTOq6KdD8ngfw6LnIDw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=3&sqi=2&ved=0CDIQ7gEwAg&prev=/search%3Fq%3DLanzius%2Bventschau%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1G1GGLQ_ENUS274%26prmd%3Div

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.outdooractive.com/de/radfahren/lueneburger-heide/alte-waelder-und-grosse-steine-zwischen-bleckede-und-ventschau/3844236133484022492/beschreibung.html&ei=SxLkTKSxMIyWnAfAzNTpDg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CGMQ7gEwCDgK&prev=/search%3Fq%3DOrt%2BVentschau%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Ds%26prmd%3Div

Notice: Ventschau - has recorded their own song which translates to something about horses.
Note: Ventschau is in lower saxony. Do not confuse with Ventschow which is Mecklenburg Vor Pommern. [Nordwest Mecklenburg district]

Genealogy related - Military Forts of Wyoming and Nebraska- Ritterling, Seil

2010-11-12T09:22:00.007-06:00

I read at Dear Myrtle genealogy blog about free acess to U.S.Military records so I hurried on over there. www.ancestry.com/military.

I had viewed a military record before of The Ritterling person, so I gave it another try. Luck was with me because I found again the write up of Mrs M. Ritterling. Record says continued from page 42 onto page 43. It says Wyoming state. It was the very one I had wanted to see again because it had been on my mind. I believe I had found the cemetery on line before which mentioned an unknown grave, but still I was able to learn whose it was. It will need further search such as local history books in area she actually lived.

I hope you can read it. It says she died from suicide 8.july. 1884 . It makes one wonder why?
Okay, I thought Mrs M might be Mary, but this one shows up below the one above.
Name: Margaretha Ritterling
Death Date: 8.july.1884
Relation: Unkown Relationship to Veterean, Unknown
Cemetery: Ft. Mc Pherson National Cemetery
Cemetery Address: 12004 S Spur 56a Maxwell, NE 69151-1031
Buried: Section B Ste 610

Second entry at data of Ancestry.com = same exact record.
Interment Date 8 July 1884.
To meet the burial needs of the soldiers stationed at the post, a cemetery was established early in its history. The old post burial ground was later moved to southwest of the post and some 50 remains were moved to this location.
[You may need to think of the battle of Custard to recall some land mark areas. ]

*I had to read the information at the Cemetery of Fort McPherson, [Nebraska] to learn that Margarethea was actually buried at Fort Robinson first and moved along with others. The record show above says she was a Siel or Seil. The immigration information gives further information on the family Ritterling. Nothing concrete.

Establishment of the 20-acre Fort McPherson National Cemetery in 1873 afforded the space to relocate remains from the cemeteries abandoned when the number of settlers decreased. Burial records testify that life on the frontier was full of hardships and dangers similar to battlefield camps during times of war.

The cemetery lodge was built in 1876 and rehabilitated in 1951 and 2000. About one mile southeast of the cemetery a monument marks the site of the flagstaff of the old military post. Another monument marks the route used by the Pony Express over the Oregon Trail, which passes through the cemetery............................
...........................Other: Fort McPherson National Cemetery is the final resting place for 63 Buffalo Soldiers of the 9th and 10th Cavalry. The soldiers were all buried at Fort Robinson, Nebraska, and were relocated to Fort McPherson National Cemetery in 1947 when Fort Robinson was deactivated...................................
......................An impressive white marble monument marks the group burial of 28 enlisted soldiers who were killed in an encounter with the Sioux on August 19, 1854 near Fort Laramie, Wyoming Territory. The incident, commonly known as the Grattan Massacre after Lt. John L. Grattan who led the soldiers, is generally considered by historians to be the opening salvo in a 36 year period of intermittent hostilities between the U.S. and the Sioux Nation, ending with the massacre at Wounded Knee, South Dakota in 1890. Lt. Grattan is interred at Fort Leavenworth National Cemetery in Kansas.

[Not all soldiers and people buried from Fort Robinson ended up at Ft. McPherson.]
Source Description:
This database is a compilation of burial records from a variety of sources and cemeteries. These records provide information on the burials of U.S. veterans and their dependents who were buried in the various Veterans Affairs (VA) National Cemeteries, state veterans cemeteries, or other military cemeteries. Because the information regarding the burials is compiled from multiple sources, the amount of information provided for each burial will vary. Some of the information you may find in this database includes: name of deceased, birth date, death date, interment date, burial location/site, cemetery name, cemetery address, relationship to veteran, veteran service dates, military rank, and military branch.

Source Description:
Burial Registers for Military Posts, Camps, Stations 1768 - 1921.2 [National Archives Microfilm Publications m2014 1 roll] Records of the Office of the Quarter master General Record Group92, Archives Washington D.C.

http://www.cem.va.gov/cems/nchp/ftmcpherson.asp
Listings: http://www.histopolis.com/Place/US/NE/Lincoln_County/Fort_McPherson_National_Cemetery?Surname=Dircksen&SurnameID=228074183
Map: http://itouchmap.com/?d=829359&s=NE&f=cemetery

Books: http://books.google.com/books?id=6NExT1qtQ1AC&pg=PA197&dq=Ft.+McPherson+National+Cemetery+NE&hl=en&ei=R03dTNbGNYzVnge0y8CYDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CD8Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false
[page 197]

http://books.google.com/books?id=Q0yHHAAACAAJ&dq=Ft.+McPherson+National+Cemetery+NE&hl=en&ei=R03dTNbGNYzVnge0y8CYDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CE8Q6AEwBg

http://books.google.com/books?id=HGQPAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA131&dq=Ft.+McPherson+National+Cemetery+NE&hl=en&ei=R03dTNbGNYzVnge0y8CYDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CFcQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Ft.%20McPherson%20National%20Cemetery%20NE&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=rEYLD-Bx6WEC&pg=PA55&dq=Ft.+robinson+National+Cemetery+NE&hl=en&ei=aFDdTPP3PIefnAeLkPjFDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Ft.%20robinson%20National%20Cemetery%20NE&f=false

Custer and Crazy Horse account: http://books.google.com/books?id=QM_R7y5tAoIC&pg=PA34&dq=%22Ft.+Robinson%22++Nebraska&hl=en&ei=p1LdTJMg0O2dB9X8gMwP&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CFkQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=%22Ft.%20Robinson%22%20%20Nebraska&f=false

Note: Henry Seil geb 1859-60, had a sister who emigrated along with him. He lost contact and later discovered she had married Ritterling and lived by Fort Laramie, Wyoming. Information was given by Pauline Seil and Carolyn her daughter. Nothing proven yet by myself.

Note: Buffalo soldiers were 'Black soldiers' who were in the ninth calvary and tenth after the civil war stationed at Ft/ Robinson 1885 - 1898 and 1907. Eighteen received highest honor with Medal Of Honor. Duty.... Honor.... Country

Missing in Action

2010-11-04T13:04:00.004-05:00

A little bird told me I should be Missing in Action this weekend. My daughters special birthday is coming up and I have upteen things to do. I have to work the weekend, and therefore have to make my time count. So I shall not be doing any other posting other than the ones I started the last couple of days, which I can finish on some little breaks. I may take some breaks, but I will remind myself, that if I sit here doing a post; it's bound to be noon before I get up and get busy again.

So I will force myself to stay away so I can do what I must to make the thirtieth Birthday a special one.

-Make the cake or order one.
-Clean house
-Wash more dishes.
-Get groceries.
-Make reservations.
-Be Missing in action

No Grandmother.!

2010-11-04T09:12:00.018-05:00

I could say the little family of Gustav and Elizabeth JAESCHKE had no Grandmother living in Amerika by them. At least not by the time the children were grown. Elizabeth did have her
estranged father. Her blind Grandmother from the Brookman Seil side had lived with her father in Iowa. Though a mature young man Gustav, had neither mother or father to turn to for his parental needs. As I was posting tombstones this morning, it dawned on me how it must have been for our settlers as they raised their children and went through their lives without their parents.

There was not the grandma around who told family stories about their parent when they were young. Not the mother whom one reminisced with about love ones back home. Not that same mother who might occasionally volunteer to take over with the children, so they can have some spare minutes to themselves.

As often said their involvement was almost like A divorce or dead to each other across the ocean. Maybe a letter now and then. But the war took away so much contact that they dearly would have wanted.

I guess I was thinking strongly of Elizabeth SEIL, who came to Iowa to live by her father,just missing her grandmother living with him. Maybe her fathers new wife Anna fulfilled the role as Grandmother to Elisabeth and Gustav's many children. Maybe she became close to Elisabeth and fulfilled a mother or friend role.

Gustav,
I suppose he had his many friends, young and older who waved in and out of his daily life in his vast life as a husband, father, musician and farmland owner.

His family was not not dead to him.
I am not sure what happened to his family letters that he must have received from his remaining family by Danzig. Thankfully Berniece Jaeschke and Gary SORENSEN TOLD ME that contact remained with Anna and Max MUHL especially after the war when they were sent care packages.. In fact I have heard that he went back to visit family and so did his daughter Louise.

Who fulfilled the grandmother role? Who told them family stories. Who did the baking rolls or cookies. Making special visits. What else does a grandmother do? I suspect August and Anna SEIL ( nee VOGEL ) fulfilled both roles.

Three over from left is Anna Vogel Seil. In Back row short man with hat peeking between the two women is August Seil.

I never had much for a grandmothers involvement in my life. Annie had died Young amd my moms mother lived in california. So that is why I say, 'what does a grandmother do'?
I think maybe most of the time, the children, just did without. They like so many others in the times as pioneers in America, they just adjusted to it as it was Just the way it is. and that was that. And moved on in life. They all understood how it was in their community and helped each other.

Tombstone of Carl J. Seil and Pauline Nahnsen

2010-11-04T08:42:00.007-05:00

Cemetery of Dawson Township in Calhoun county.
Pauline NAHNSEN SEIL born 19.May.1912 to Broder and Mary NAHNSEN ( nee MEYER )
Pauline's spouse was Carl J. SEIL, son of Heinrich [ HENRY] SEIL and Mary AHRENS.

Broder was son of Claus NAHNSEN. Claus was son of another Broder NAHNSEN and Agatha CHRISTANSEN.

Sharing a little J and I.-- Genealogy Share

2010-11-02T13:07:00.007-05:00

This post just explains better my little share below in the last post. I am basically using the phrasing from this site http://www.feefhs.org/guides/German_Gothic.pdf
which I found to illustrates my point.

German has all 26 letters used in the English
alphabet, plus a few additional letters: umlauted
vowels—ä, ö, and ü—and an Eszett, ß. Specific
information about these additional letters is given
later.
There is often no distinction made between the
capital I and the capital J). They may be
represented by the same letter whether printed or
handwritten and may be also indexed as the same
letter. When followed by a vowel the letter is a
consonant, J and when followed by a consonant, it
is a vowel, I.

It's not an exact quote. The old Gothic letters they used don't show up here. I am not sure why.
The words for the examples they used were: and the word die Idee= the idea; die Insel= the Island; der junge= boy; and Juli = July

I hope you will visit this link for further reading , it's fantastic.

Searching for "I" -- A Genealogy Story Share

2010-11-02T10:53:00.011-05:00

Awhile ago I was searching through a german website postings on something arranged alphabetical. You know when you visit these sites it takes twice as long because you have to get the small translations from an exterior website just to manage through their sites. Unless your basically familiar with the commonly used german terms for online sites.

Well any way a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h and I had maybe started with " k" or and was skipping and then I was at 'J' and going backward. I kept getting 'H'. Ohhhhhff where is "I" .What am I doing wrong, [sigh] lets see.... I'll try it again. And then came to the Duh moment. Oh yeah, " I" is the same as 'J'. It was not in the alphabet all alone. Especially, when your transcribing the old church records, I should have known that.
It is up to you to decide if it is a' J' or an 'I' in what you are translating. Such as is it Isabel or Jesebel? [Or is it Isable, Or Jeseble?]

Sure that was a special site, and you will often find lists under 'I' as well as 'J' in most cases. I just had a little reminder, that's all, which I thought I'd share today.

When you wake up, maybe you'll like to read my next post about an encounter at another German site.

Fruitful Friday Observations and Serendipity Events

2010-10-22T11:03:00.030-05:00

It's Friday and my day off, which is a lucky thing in itself. A fruitful day and it's not even noon. It seems to me that any successful serendipity event is fruitful
What was so fruitful about today.
I took the laptop to work as I waited to see my daughter at the local family business.

I couldn't help reflect on the types of people there. I guess my thoughts were running along the lines of maturity and people types.
I guess I was thinking of the how I react to differences of certain kinds of people, like people or creative people, thinking people or what I think of as " bookish". I don't get into A or B personalities and I think you know those better than I and can classify accordingly. Do you have certain types you gravitate towards. Like yourself, opposite yourself, heroine or hero types?

I was also thinking of how ones hobbies and interests follow you day to day, hour to hour, minute to minute. John's hobby or father-in-laws interests come out in conversations no matter what time of day it is or who you see and talk to during the day. A Historical Photographer or Genealogist, or community server.

Father-in-law's job is to keep customers happy, so he was talking about something to do with beer drinking and coffee and some things that had to do with world war military service and the gentle man was saying, that he didn't drink, coffee, or beer and he has very few physical problems in his age bracket but I gathered from his conversations that he had done military service too. I typed him as "Bookish" as I heard him speaking to some others about a picture ad the war in Hanoi.

He even recognized a young gentleman near me and gave him a picture of something to do with Hanoi. And they chatted a bit about it. After he walked away I asked the kind young man, who the gentleman was who had my interest. He said, John Russell. I knew then that he was the local photographer and historian.

I recognized the difference in this gentleman and my father in law.[ I admire father-in-laws humor or Wit and there is nothing wrong with his difference, but they are different kind of thinkers, at least I think so.]

The old log barn.
I was so glad that I had my computer with me, I proceeded to dig out the file where I had stored the pictures of the garden tour, which I partook in this summer. In particular I wanted to show him the old log barn part of which you see in picture below whenever the historian was in the right spot near m. I wanted to find out what was the story on the old barn and maybe the family? I expected he would rattle off information.
John Russell was not aware of the old log barn. He asked about the tour, [Maybe now he will take more of an interest in interfaith pantry garden tours, tee hee] As a man about the town, I was sure he knew or was aware of all the society tours, a photography opportunity. But no. Ithink his interest is more of a historical nature. Though he does Portraits. I was able at least to tell him who sponsored the tour and he could learn more about the farm from them.
But now I think darn, why didn't I show the garden tour page [which I see is no longer found online; nor is the upload I did at hgtv garden message board or maybe it is cached] and tell him the name. However, I can still eventually locate the pamphlet I had. I vaguely recall names of Larson and secondhand ownership.

Since he has turned out a local book" Where the wild Rice grows"with many of our historical landmarks and also many interesting stories to accompany them, I am sure he will ask someone about a log house or barn, if it ever suits his purpose. The young guy near me said there are some other log houses west of town in this area too, which is good to know. Aactually he was probably thinking of the Larsen place, cause I had forgotten the location was Knapp at 160 th street not the Menomonie Red cedar area.

Now being a home lovin " bookish" thinker type person, I probably could sit in a threesome with that author, historian for hours. [ The third person being a local open minded person] Now see, I didn't grow up here and I haven't made the effort to see sites and historical interesting sites a bit further from town, and I have been here at least twenty years.

I should research and then get out more to these fabulous places around me. I mean It doesn't have to cost much, just gas money and time, maybe my meal for the day, to see things. After all I live only a few hours away from the Stillwater sites, and tons of historical places of the lumber barons near me, which gave many a pioneer their start in Amerika. [And many blog opportunities]

Other fruitful events.
There were other unexpected fruitful happenings to tickle my heritage loving bones. Mother- in-law gave me the identity of the members of the Mave family picture that she remembered I had been wanting. You can find that here soon.

Ahh yes, there was another and most important event of the day - I met the nice handsome young man with the hat on his very blond hair, whom my daughter had wanted us to meet. [ I gave her two pumpkins, that she and a "we" are to carve at another time. ] I refrained from saying, I don't know if I will ever see you again, but it was nice to meet you. [ another story]

take care --- jo arootdigger

It's funny, now all I want to do is explore even more the many articles written by John Russell which were in the Dunn county Newspaper. We never subscribed to the newspaper, for various reasons, so I hadn't the privilege of reading them all before. If you enjoy well written history, you can google his name and then dunn county and you can find many to read on your own.
On John Russell -
Perhaps he visited Vietnam, took pictures. I should find out.
About His book - http://openlibrary.org/books/OL825341M/Where_the_wild_rice_grows
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~widunn/DunnBooks.htm
http://www.dunnconnect.com/articles/2010/10/11/history/doc4cb0916fdb9fe688522243.txt
http://www.dunnconnect.com/articles/2010/07/31/history/doc4c54748dda339330276380.txt
http://www.alibris.com/search/books/author/Russell,%20John%20M.

Local Genealogy Help -
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~widunn/
http://www.dunnhistory.org/sitehm.html
http://www.dunnhistory.org/exhibits.html
Explore these- Historically well told as inspiration for a blogger - http://www.dunnhistory.org/history/exmiller.html

More Warnecke 1880 at Oldendorf / Nahrendorf

2010-10-14T11:27:00.010-05:00

Mary Meyer Nahnsen~~~~~~Herman Meyer ~~~~~~Anna Meyer Bennett

Well I am getting around to showing you more on what I have for Warnecke; just as I said I would. /It has of course been in the back pages of 2008.
So see here in 1880 the church record of Mary Meyer, who married into the same Nahnsen family that her sister Frieda married also in Calhoun county, Iowa. Frieda was born years later in Calhoun county Iowa. You can see the w hole family here [except for the deceased].

This little part of the church record at Nahrendorf shows the babtism of Marie, child or our Juergen Heinrich Wilhelm Meyer. Notice the name Lyssmann twice. Lysmann in connection with Warnecke. Sorry, I don't know yet the connection nor do I know the family of Wilhelmine Meyer. I was curious too, because there was a family of Lusman, who ran a harness shop at Farnhamville. I noticed that they were too, early members of the Lutheran St. Peters church.

3. Kind MEYER, Marie Wilhelmine Bertha (F) ev
* 12.01.1880 Oldendorf = Nahrendorf
~ 21.01.1880 Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Taufregister der ev.-luth.
Kirchengemeinde Nahendorf
Nr. 3/1880
Meyer, Marie Wilhelmine Bertha, geb. 12. Januar 1880,
get. 21. Januar,
Eltern: Juergen Heinrich Wilhelm Meyer,
Haeusler in Oldendorf und dessen
Ehefrau Marie Dorothea geb. Heins.

Taufzeugen:
1.) Wilhelmine Lyssmann geb. Meyer, Haeusler in Oldendorf.
2.) Elisabeth Warnecke geb. Lyssmann, Haeuslerfrau in Oldendorf.

Do you Remember that her older first born sister Anna was named afer the twins of another Juergen Friedrich Meyer, who also worked at Roethen and lived in Oldendorf and was the schulz. ( Schulz probably means mayor.) Until I get more word from the church I don't know enough to even speculate accurately.

I would like to tell you my thoughts at the moment.
This is 1880, a year later after Wilhelms father has passed away; and his mother in 1856, so his father may have remarried. Wilhelm is a hauesler in Oldendorf not a landowner. He knew back in 1869 he wanted to go to Amerika. I am wondering if a stepmother or her children could possibly be a godparent to his children. It's just a thought.

Well I really must run along now, my stomach is growling.

If you know anything on the
Warnecke or Lyssmann, or even Lusman[n] why not drop me a line.
We love comments, you know!

There'll be a Hot time in the old town tonight!

2010-10-11T08:32:00.015-05:00

Late one night, when we were all in bed,
Old Mother Leary left a lantern in the shed;
And when the cow kicked it over,
she winked her eye and said,
"There’ll be a hot time in the old town, tonight."

Folklore / Fact - http://www.chicagohs.org/fire/oleary/

Those are some Lyricks to the old song in referral to the Great Chicago fire. In an anuual memory of the date our work place had fire safety instruction this week, which is an annual event probably started because of the anniversary date of the Great Chicago fire. [There was also another big fire Peshtigo, Wisconsin in another area with a big amount of destruction said to perhaps be due to Metors fragments falling. I think they need a song in competition] The Chicago fire which burned for two days began on October 8, 1871 at 13 Dekoven Street of Chicago an area that held many German and Irish immigrants.. Many lives of families would not be the same after that.

I have taken an interest because M&M mentioned this fire and the song.
He mentioned the song in association of the O'leary cow and the fire, which was said as a cause of early death of Williams sibling Margarete.
When I told him I hadn't heard about any other Meyer other than grandfather's brother William or his sisters; he told me that so many of the brothers and children died so very young, and others in mid life. He mentioned Young Fred dying from a burst appendix shortly after his marriage. As you already know the story of Williams brother Fred or Fritz dying at Lombard. As for the mentioned O'leary, who had the cow my brain gets a bit fuzzy in recall of the details because he departed so much new information to me in that short amount of time on a work break. But I thought he said that the family lost the sister Margaret, who had been married to Stille or Stile. She may have been known as Catherine or Elisabeth. She may very well have been Liese who we know came with Fred in 1869 supposedly first to Galena, Illinois.

If she had been Liese and came in 1869 to Galena, she would have had to marry very quickly or have gone to Chicago to work and live.

I hadn't much luck in marriage searches for Jo Davies. However, I am thinking she may have come with another married name, and that AIDA, and the Meyer book [ my sources] neglected to mention it. In the bigger scope of Illinois marriages I had this:

STILES, WM. J(LICENSES DATE)-MEYERS,LIZZIE H
-1873-10-29 2  /66   8        CLINTON

The 'H' would have to be an error. [ Don't you just hate people adding a 's' to the name Meyer!]

Now imagine being trapped in a fire situation with a language handicap and location knowledge limited. If she had an infant already and she died, most likely the infant by her side would have perished too.

At any rate, the idea of folklore, or family stories blown out of proportion is something to keep in mind [grin]. No doubt that people with theories and proven information is still a good read. It often times has distracted me as I have attempted to find anything on Catherine Margarete Elisabeth Meyer - Stiles . I have actually searched and browsed some sources a few year ago. I am sure today today, I would not have to weed through so much information of a more glorified nature to something more substantial as a genealogist.

Genealogy - For Genealogists - footnote.com
In fact I just recently noticed Footnote has a special of the month on the Great Chicago fire, and if it is free I want to pursue it. I will have to make time. See here. It seems to be a good place for me to start again. Or at least look it over. I am going to make time for it, folks!

Now I had trouble narrowing down my search at Footnote which is now part of Ancestry.com's holdings. So I am including this link I found to help make searching there easier.
http://www.footnote.com/page/1176_footnote_search_tips_updated/

If you don't mind I will save more fuzzy details of mention of the other Deceased siblings of William Meyer's and the hunts for other discussions.

In conclusion and not about Margarete Meyer Stile
I guess I can't help but say that like Grims fairy tales and Aesop tales, I suspect that what was written and said and know to all in fun will stick. Probably three hundred years after we are gone, there will still be the little tale of the poor old Kate O'leary's cow despite proof of it not being true it will stick. It will be part of us in some way just as the fairy tales lived on with our ancestors' descendants. It can be a little mind boggling when you think about the power of a good story.

Below in the various articles about Chicago fire you may read a little on the ghost writer for Michel Ahern who is said to have written about Kate O'leary. I myself want to read more about a reference to a Rockwell Painting. Or you might follow up on the Footnote link.

Further reading and sources:
http://graveyards.com/IL/Cook/mtolivet/oleary.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_O%27Leary
http://www.chicagohs.org/fire/oleary/
http://www.chicagohs.org/fire/oleary/library.html
Sources Sources:
Copyright © 1996 by the Chicago Historical Society and the Trustees of Northwestern University
Last revised 10-1-97

Big Herman and Little Herman Meyer

2010-10-10T13:41:00.007-05:00

At the Sunny slope about 1948 or later.

Here we have Herman Henry [Heinrich Friedrich Herman Meyer] and Little Herman William 1 Meyer holding the prized corn ear. It may have been a winner at the fair. Sometimes there were blue ribbons, and other times red ribbons.

Little Herman was called Sonny. I am sure his grandfather and his father Dwight had thought he might some day follow in their footsteps to be a farmer. When your young it is a nice thought and the older folks if they thoroughly love their occupation think the same. However Dwight had gnawing anxiety over farming. Without a huge savings to fall back on, there was worry over it due to major expenses. Maybe if there had not been a house fire, it may have been better for them starting out. He had enough so that he did not want his youngest son to take the occupation up.

But it was probably the occupation the younger son would have wanted. Had he done so, it is hard to say, if he would have loved it too. Often times it helps if the wife works outside the home and farm for a bit more security. I wished the younger son Steven could have had his wish. I wonder what he would say?

A genealogy note: I read recently at a posting at the Tosterglope page that corn was not introduced there until early 1900's.* 2 I found that so surprising. I had taken the crop for granted for the farmers.

Source:
borrowed from sunnyslope farm
2.. [still coming]

A few Genealogy Irks / Thats like saying you can't have the chicken cause you have no egg.

2010-10-10T10:52:00.008-05:00

Ten things you do in Genealogy that Irks me!
Post On the Negative With Slight Positive side!
Hah - rootdigger! no naming names!

[In order to know where your going; you have to know where you [they] have been]

1. People who make everything so private. So what if they are living. Not even a date or where they are from on the front page list. At least give a surname of a spouse. If you have just a tiny scrap bit of information alone, isolated to go on with your research, it is no help when you run across people like that. Once upon a time back, when I was at midstream I came across a name in my village and county areas of Iowa who had the same year as my Meyer. They even carried the Behrens and a Lichte names. [I was hoping for a Licht name.] I also had followed a Wilhelmina Meyer to Lowden, Iowa who had the background of Yoders. Possibly to it would have helped a search for a Heins/Sander/Meyer tree due to a reference on one line in a church record. I think it was. I thought the whole tree had been on line years before. I was trying to learn hopefully by a couple of quick glances to see the persons original location in Germany, would be all I needed. Imagine how much time - years- I would have saved, if I could have done so/ Instead My search had stopped then, and I suppose I thought I could take it up later. The woman did not give me the password because I was not related. That's like saying you can't have the chickens cause you have no egg. [yes it's grrr. My attitude will take time to heal] [ But, thankfully others are in the same tree!!]

2. They have everything about the family in United states, but nothing about where they are from in the old country. Even a hint or suspect location would help. Maybe you could tell us if you have tried to look.

3. They have everything about the family in the 'old country', but nothing much about American descendants. [me arootdigger, I am very guilty] If they all died off, tell me.

4. They have done the work, but don't list good enough sources intenional or unintentional, so you can pick it up yourself to see if they are related without having to start from the very start. [Am I guilty too?]

5. They have an obvious error in location spelling and they fail to supply the real spelling.They are hurting themselves in that omission. How are your future relatives going to pick you out of the web of millions of words and associations, if you have an error in location. I would never have gotten anywhere, if I had not learned it was Oldendorf an der Goehrde, not Oldenburg. Your working on the assumption that everyone is getting a referral to this site by yourself. Ask yourself this: What is the point of the site. Is it to gain current unknowns or simply inform those relatives you already have by exact known connection.

6. No points to myself, but it helps if you use Umlauts. After all, it helps tags get picked up. I did use them on a standard keyboard, but not so much now. I should do it again .

I read that titles in white is not picked up by the crawlers, now I have read that it is. I figure why take a chance and I love light blue and pink anyway?

7. At the message boards they only have one post listed under their name. I am not sure if it is by design or if they quit after that. It makes you wonder if their email will even work. It sure gives no clues to anything about the family. Perhaps they knew everything else?

8. Kind of the same but slightly different. Some fail to say locations and give only name and date, and so you have to further click or even roam all over finding where they came from or the oldest known person of that tree original location and date. [A Bonus would be the youngest] We all have our brick wall people that we hope to find, even by chance clicks. It sure would help if they post those right off visible from the start.

9. Get your password out there, so it is easily found in places you expect. skip the @ button if you want. A button; a link in profile. Don't make me hunt it, I'll probably give up and maybe go back. But my attitude is already negative towards you.

10. Other people who get irked because they assume you have not done your homework and take a post and time to tell you so. I have gotten information in church records that are simple one liners, and I follow up by a quick browse at a few chosen places, which may include posts at forums and message boards just to see the lay of it all, so to speak. So Perhaps it is not doing the homework, but what could you do else in research of American sources once you have checked census and other historical documentation about a isolated orphan name, but if all it takes is one quick question to ask where that person was from, why not. You have to give graciously as good as you get. I have many Irons in the fire that I haven't gotten to yet. And sometimes a post is right there in front of you. Often a census will say Germany or Hannover and that tells you squat. Further more, some people think Hannover kingdom is spelled Hanover. It is my understanding that the city is called Hanover. [ If I am wrong feel free to pinch me] So I to take a little more of my time and investigate their definition of Hanover/ Hannover before I disregard them. If they only knew to at least include some thing to clarify. say city or something so I know it is all over Hannover not one little city. And I won't start on the use of Prussia.

What did I forget?? Oh come on, you have some! Be sure to add some in the comments. I probably agree with them. Or am extremely guilty of them!

I have to remind myself that yes these people could still be my relatives. You can't choose your relatives they say, like you can your friends. However, they can choose to acknowledge you or not?? [This is not as good as it gets - rootdigger!]

As I was told, the data is hard to find as it is, why make it harder for the next one to find it.

Fritz Meyer in 1870 at Jackson County; Residing With the Helmans

2010-10-02T09:22:00.021-05:00

Mary and Fred from the Meyer book.

Welcome to the my page. Today. I thought I would be a little visual.
I was browsing the marriage records of Illinois again and brought
forth the name Herman Millman, who married the
sister- in- law of Juergen Friedrich Meyer of Oldendorf
and Roethen [ geb 1814], Maria Ahrens. Remember
she wrote a letter in a little yellow envelope to Friedrich[ geb 1861]
in 1868 about work for him in Galena.
I hadn't been able to find her marriage records at
Jo Davies county. I guess it was because of another
spelling of her name. And maybe I was too busy
looking for Molleman, Mohlman and Molman.
[Perhaps Millman is a american version.]
Herman's father is spelled the other way.
Anyway, now you can see the names of the record
of the marriage. It is not entire proof. I did go and
search the trees and found some in which he lies.

MILLMAN, HERMAN -ARNDS, MARY -
1868-02-19 C  /153- JO DAVIESS

Now I'd like you to take a look at the census
where Herman and Mary were
hiding under my nose at Tete des Morts.
Yes, Fred or Fritz was staying with them, helping,
just as the little yellow letter to Fred promised
a place to work in America at their farm.
I had mostly remembered the Tiedeman family
where he lived in 1880.
In the census that contains my Fritz Meyer in 1870 at
Jackson county Iowa, he resides with the Hellmans.
Who are really most likely Herman and Mary.
I could be wrong,
I will have to verify children and their age.
Eventually.
Most of the trees owners were not aware of who the Mary was. Herman
had two spouses.
There are a few other proofs but here is another one.
Bellevue Lutheran Cemetery Listing, Bellevue, Jackson Co., Iowa
And
Herman MILLMAN born 6.Sept.1856
- death 8.Feb.1934
Herman Millman born about April 1816
-death12. April.1900

But I did look up Marie Ahrens in that tree and
though the spouse is married to the same woman
in Germany, the birth date and facts for Herman
seem to be off in so many trees.
So I need to find more proof.

While your looking, do notice the Schenk family,
and the Rieckens.
They are his future family once he marries Mary Schenk.

I thought it would be good to get a good look at
Tete des Morts land ownership.

When Marie wrote to Friedrich about joining her and
her husband to help on the farm, I wonder if she
included the name of her husband Mr. Molleman.
If she did, the full name should be in the documents
of where Fritz Meyer would be working, once he
reached Galena. Instead of working at Illinois
they crossed the Mississippi river and worked
in Jackson county.

Would you like a link to the information on Mary Ahren's
little yellow envelope from Galena and the finding on Aida
about it all.?
Or you can just search in search box for more information.

When I Say I Found New Relation....

2010-09-29T11:37:00.005-05:00

When I say
" I found New Relation" triumphantly to my husband in my sing songy happy kind of voice. [After all I have to say ( share ) it to someone, that's what husbands are for, aren't they?]

He usually makes the same remark back. "Oh your related to everyone!. "
[He has no clue. At least I don't think he does].

I say back " Your right". [ ahh Cause why not give him a free one. ]
Cause we are.

We just have to prove them.

Did you know Sylvia Peters Meyer; Grandma Meyer

2010-09-26T11:00:00.022-05:00

Sylvia Gudrun Peters born September 26, 1919. She lived in Yankton, S.D. while small. Photo above Dewey is her as a small twin infant. Sylvia holding Sissy and Dwight holding Sonny - Steven is still only a twinkle in Dewys eyes. [It's hard to bring her into good focus.]
She was proud of her Phlox. This is not hers , but like hers.
She had a whole wall of Dishes in her Kitchnette. These are not hers but she had one similar. Hers were more of social based collection. Plates were given to her representing different special states by friends and relatives, and so she tried to get every state.

The Lodes family, Sylvia 's mother descended from the Anthony on the far right.

I can not help myself. A little tribute towards her must be done today.

In getting ready for the post, I kept saying, I have said a lot already each year, what else should I say. Then I asked myself, what do I think of when I think of my mother. Of course in a persons life time there are may things that one thinks of when one thinks of her. Her role as a mother, wife, and neighbor, relative and friend. Manager or delegator, House keeper, gardner, crafter [ holiday decorating, rugs, quilts, embroidery], decorator, collector, cook, farmworker, butcher, baker are only some things I think of at the moment.

Ah, yes baking. she was not like gramma Josie Lodes Peters. I believe she looks a lit like her mother.

who had a specialty in sweet rolls, but she could turn out many good cookies, breads, puddings, and cakes. I think baking and decorating cakes was a small joy in her life. And she took a small delight in briging them to someone to make their day special.

I remember one time she took a nice large double layer cake to Chuck Johnson's birthday party being held at his grandparents around the corner from her farm. He was away from his home of the northern mining region of Minnesota so his mom probably didn't feel she was able to whip one up as Sylvia would be able to do. I am sure it was no surprise that Sylvia brought the cake. I don't remember too much about the event myself, cause I was just a little kid playing with the others even though the Older Johnson boys made an impression on me.

And they were thoughtful boys. When news reached those in northern Minnesota about moms failing health, Chuck took the time to write and expressed his thankful moments he felt about the day Sylvia baked him a cake and brought it on his birthday.It evidently touched him as a thoughtful thing for her to do. I remember reading that and it touched me too as I remember the thoughtful person I had always thought he was.

I am sure there were many things that she gave her free time to in helping those she knew in their time of need. She gave away produce of the farm all the time. She had people out for Sunday dinner around the big round table in her dining room. She made quilts from scraps and gave them as gifts to some of the other Johnsons. Just as some of your grandmothers made afghans and gave them as wedding gifts, etc.

A short little recall of a scene I witnessed comes to mind.
I recall the cakes she baked and would take to any event. She enjoyed decorating it within her means. sometimes she would make the Butter cream frosting which I loved. But she loved to make her seven Minute frosting the most. I always liked to lick the beaters and scrapers before I washed them if no one beat me to it. She would use those hard candy letters to spell out what ever she wanted. Those came in kits at the grocery store. But well they were just plain sweet. I didn't care that much for them. it was the cake with frosting that I was after.

When she was out doing chores I would cut a slim layer all the way across the cake and thus have my cake unnoticed. I am sure she knew somehow. It was not always easy of a task to accomplish at times, because she would scoot around the yard pretty fast. Just as I was popping in a bite to my mouth, there she was coming in the door.

For some reason over the years we noticed that the frosting was growing harder after a few hours. Had she altered it? Had she forgotten something. I guess it was because other peoples were still soft and hers was still hard. So at gatherings they chose the other persons cake to eat.

Mom would be bringing left over cake home. Well sometimes it was barely touched cake. My cousins all agreed with me it was the crusty like frosting that we didn't care for anymore.

Well, we did learn the reason other peoples were not as hard from my mothers mother who was doing one of her occasional visits from California. Her mother would make the rounds to all her children and relatives who offered her a chance to stay with them.

I am not sure how the conversation erupted, or much more than those moments when one senses things have gone awry. In those moments I paid attention and at this moment I heard my grandmother tell my mom that the other ladies adjust the frosting to the new way or method. I think she offered to show mom. I know she told her what they do. But for some reason, I think my mom chose not to do the change. I notice people still make something called similar to the old seven minute frosting.

I Kind of wish she would have had the same ambition with the cooked chocolate frosting. She told me why, but I don't remember her reason for not making it. Maybe I can get it under the belt before my next birthday for a double frosted layers of chocolate cake.
Anyway, today I want to remind you about the blog on the Peters and Lodes family coming up soon. Different Perspectives.
Check back if you like for the location after I have edited in the location. ; )

Sorry, I kind of hurried this one.
just me jo a rootdigger

Note : When you follow the link to Sylvia's dining room you see in the photo a large oval picture, which has too much glare. but it was a photo of her and her twin Sybella at infant stage. Her twin died not long after the photo. In later years there was a clock there. No matter there or even in the corner cabinet window; she kept a few penny photos tucked in the frames. They were photographs of her and her husband Dewey, probably taken when they were first married. I was the little Sissy in her Arms.
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The Genea blogger Ancestor Approval Award

2010-09-18T12:08:00.012-05:00

The Genea Blogger Ancestor Approved Award is being Retired at my blog. She will hang at the side. It has reached so many deserving bloggers, and I know it has missed quite a few because of a matter of timing. But for many said reasons at other times, I just am going to put the little lady to the side and leave her there.

In the future I am sure there will probably be so many other great awards that go out to those deserving bloggers that I am missing and wanted to honor this time.

It's a tricky thing these awards. I know I actually gave some that were not acknowledged maybe due to lost messages, being ignored, or what ever. I don't wish to offend anyone by dropping this now or by bringing the little lady out again. But I think in my case, it is time she takes a rest.

Sure I thought of the acquired, required that accompanies the award of ten more surprising , humbling things, probably mentioned ten times as it is on the blog or will be now in the future. But that is minor.

Instead, after a little thought, I have decided to let my recognition of deserving bloggers show through Follow Friday. If they are already on the Follow Friday list, I will recognize them in my own way. I am going to do it in the accepted correct way of course. I originally thought it meant it was our for reading our blogs that we follow. I had reluctantly not wanted to do the follow Friday, at first from my own ignorance as to what it was and how it was done. I later read what it really was and then out of fear of offending anyone, I decided not to. I am confident now though, it will be okay.

I 've noticed that other bloggers have added the names of their presenters next to their Ancestor Award picture, which I am going to do soon as well. If I forget to add yours, or if I am too slow in getting it there, can you remind me you gave me one please.
[ I feel so terribly unorganized this summer with all the shifting, and less attention I paid to blogging this summer] [ I have much to do in that line of duty to my house, still.]

I can't promise faithful posting every Friday, but occasional Fridays should be fine. And bear with me please as I get the hang of it.
Thanks for understanding.
just me jo

Can You Help With My Dilemma over the Ancestor Approval Award. Presentation

2010-09-13T11:17:00.011-05:00

Here's the thing. I have been given the Ancestery Approval award which has been around several times to those bloggers I know. I presented two and selected bloggers to present it too. . Since it has been around to many more than once, should I present it again. Many of you are known to some newer bloggers, and may receive it again and it will start again. [I had a hard time last time finding some who had not had it before.] idon'tmind finding the bloggers.

But do you, because it will probably round about again to you all.

Tell me please what you think? I really could use your help with this dilemma.

Out on a limb.

2010-09-10T23:48:00.006-05:00

I have been kind of out on a limb like this lately. I can't tell you about it yet. Maybe tomorrow.

Genealogy Story of a Hunt for Göhrde Info..- and Meyer and Behrens

2010-09-07T10:20:00.014-05:00

Source : http://www.goehrdehof.de/jagd/Beipackm Jagd.pdf

I am sure that I have shared this story before, but just in case I did not, I'd like to give it this slant.

One more word about the last post and the pictures supplied and the link I gave. I did borrow it from Mr Hoffman whom I met on line a few years ago. I wrote in English and he wrote in German. I used the translator to understand what he had to say.

He is a retired NATO member. He said and I could see that he was proud that he had much to do with doing away with the weapons of their country. Being as smart and educated as he is, he had a good command of English. I admit my ignorance of NATO and what it is about. I found him online possibly because of the German word deer and forest. I struck up conversation with him about hunting and the Göhrde forest. I was hoping to learn more about what could be at Oldendorf and the Göhrde in relation to the game hunting reserve there. I hoped to learn more and possibly eventually learn more about Hunting at Röthen. Even though he was into hunting, he couldn't tell me a whole lot, because he came from another area of the country. It wasn't as if he grew up there and heard many stories. Though I am sure if he attends local events, or hunts with locals, maybe some oldtimers may have told him a story or two.

I was impressed with his love of the adventure of hunting as he told me he was leaving soon to go Boar hunting in Czechoslovakia. It seems to me that he would be the most wonderful person that I would want in my company were I to hunt the edges of the great forests. [ If I were to visit Germany someday, his cabins is where I might want to stay a few nights.]

So relatives if your ever in the idea of hunting in Germany, especially in the area of our ancestors where they wandered these forests, you should consider staying at his lodgings Göhrdehof. He has more on it if you follow the link. Please do check it out.

I had noticed that his address said Neetzendorf and I was trying to get and idea of size and lay of the land. I asked him about Behrens and the Meyer family there. He said his daughter lives in USA out west. And after a little further writing on my part, he said if I faxed him a tree, he would give it to the MEYER and the BEHRENS since they were only a couple Yards from him. [ I still wonder what he meant by Yards. I think it must mean as we do in the city. It must mean someone is two houses over to their yard.]

I was curious whose home he took over, and he said it was his wifes Bergmann family, whom have lived there for a long time. Her name was BERGMANN. and Yes readers I have seen the name many a document including one of my own. And did I reveal that, your thinking it right, of course I did! I intend to write to her again later, when I have compiled Bergman Information.

Now to get on with it.
I or We only corresponded with the one of the two Herman Behrens family in Neetzendorf. The Behrens family responded that they didn't know? I later sent them a whole bundle of document copies. [I was hoping the two were related to each other and would share it. I regret not sending to both Behrens.] And the Meyer family at Neetzendorf said that they did not know either. That the keeper of their ancestor information was a Werner SCHUHE. and that most of the names always had the name with Heinrich. Our seem to as well. It was hard to tell with some of them, cause I only had two names to work with. Johan Juergen Meyer- Heinrich Christoph Meyer's son.

You have to remember that according to the church documents, [ which is all I have to work with,] the Juergen Friedrich Meyer (geb. 1814) must have moved to Eichdorf to marry Cathrina Margarethea Luhmann. I think the mother or father may have followed him at different times. His other brother had gone to Himbergen [county] Uelzen, married, had children and died there. The youngest surviving other brothers where abouts and family is uknown to me.

So now you see why I have a special place in my heart for the kind Mr. Hoffmann of Neetzendorf, who owns a little hunting / lodging business in the home area of our Ancestors.

Note: I did try to find 'Werner Schuhe'. it is not so easy to find a Werner Schuhe with Schuhe standing for shoe. I should mention though that our M& M in Fairmont did say we had the familien name Shoe in the family.

Note: You know I suspect that our M & M in Fairmont may have read some of the German books of the area including those in old script. He may have read Charlotte Wodaege's book on Dahlenburg or he even may have had a copy of Heinrich Borstelmann's book about the inhabitants of the villages of Bleckede, which is to be my next post.

At my next posts you will be surprised to see how often the name Bergman and other familiar surnames come up and then too the village Neetzendorf.