More On The Familiennamen KORN Of The SEIL Family

This was sent as a attachment by Marlie Vollmer. It is the same as what was in My Himbergen book so much better written than I could have done. As I said in Previous posts she is a co- author of Heinrich Porth. She had expressed a huge interest in the outcome of those families of Uelzen. If you have any from this area, you might consider contacting her and sending her your family members information.>

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1 Beusch, Juergen Heinrich Friedrich, Haeusling

vor 1884

Korn, Kathrine Marie, , 06.10.1858 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 13.10.1858 Himbergen, Ehepaar hatte 3 Kinder

2 Brunswieck, Johann Christoph, Dienstknecht, 01.10.1838 Almstorf, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 09.10.1838 Himbergen

22.04.1867 Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen

Korn, Catharina Dorothea Sophia, , 02.12.1842 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 07.12.1842 Himbergen, Ehepaar hatte 1 Tochter

3 Carlsson, Nils Johann, Haeusling, Historie des Ehemanns: evt ein Schwede?, 1885 Gross Thondorf

15.11.1885 Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen

Korn, Catharina Dorothea Maria Elisabeth, , «14», «17», «15», 01.03.1845 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 09.03.1845 Himbergen, Historie der Ehefrau: konfirmiert 17.4.1859 in Himbergen, 1883 lebt getrennt vom Ehemann Seil, 1885 geschieden.[ Notice 1.]

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Franck, Catharina Maria Margaretha, «11», 18.12.1828 Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 21.12.1828 Himbergen

Kind:

1) Franck, Juergen Heinrich Friedrich, 19.08.1851 Westersunderberg Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 24.08.1851 Himbergen, 08.05.1852 Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 10.05.1852 Himbergen

5 Korn, Franziskus, Musketier, vor 1833

vor 1787

Hartmann, Johanne Maria

Kind:

1) Korn, Carl Bernhard, «6», «7», err. 30.10.1787 Gronau bei Hildesheim, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 19.10.1858 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, 22.10.1858 Himbergen

6 Korn, Carl Bernhard, Zinngiesser und Kesselflicker, , «7», err. 30.10.1787 Gronau bei Hildesheim, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 19.10.1858 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, 22.10.1858 Himbergen, Historie des Ehemanns: war roemisch katholischer Religion

 1) vor 1814

Culeman, Elisabeth, err. 1778 Ahrenstedt Amt Windenstedt bei Hildesheim, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 06.05.1831 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, 09.05.1831 Himbergen, Historie der Ehefrau: war roemisch katholischer Religion

Kinder:

1) Korn, Johann Ferdinand, «8», 03.04.1814 Everode Amt Winzenburg, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 11.11.1865 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 14.11.1865 Himbergen

2) Korn, Maria Theresa, 1815, 18.07.1822 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 21.07.1822 Himbergen

3) Korn, Carl August, 09.11.1819 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 10.11.1819 Himbergen, 26.07.1822 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 28.07.1822 Himbergen

4) Korn, Carl August Friedrich, «9», 25.03.1823 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 18.07.1876 Westersunderberg Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 21.07.1876 Himbergen

5) Korn, Heinrich Jacob, «10», err. 1825 Drage, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 30.01.1867 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 02.02.1867 Himbergen

6) Korn, Johann Heinrich Christian, «11», 14.07.1828 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 15.07.1828 Himbergen

7 Korn, Carl Bernhard, Zinngiesser und Kesselflicker, , «6», err. 30.10.1787 Gronau bei Hildesheim, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 19.10.1858 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, 22.10.1858 Himbergen

 2) 26.12.1833 Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen

Hostman, (Hofman), Sophia Frederika Henrietta, 1801 Gnausen bei Erfurt, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 25.09.1859 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 28.09.1859 Himbergen

Kinder:

1) Korn, Juergen Wilhelm, 27.01.1834 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 28.01.1834 Himbergen, 28.01.1834 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 30.01.1834 Himbergen

2) Korn, Catharina Elisabeth, «12», 09.04.1835 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 12.04.1835 Himbergen

3) Korn, Maria Dorothea, 27.12.1837 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 30.12.1837 Himbergen, 06.12.1843 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 09.12.1843 Himbergen

8 Korn, Johann Ferdinand, Zinngiesser und Kesselflicker, , 03.04.1814 Everode Amt Winzenburg, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 11.11.1865 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 14.11.1865 Himbergen, Historie des Ehemanns: war roemisch-katholisch

1841 Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen

Schmidt, Sophia Frederica, 08.09.1822 Westersunderberg Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 08.09.1822 Himbergen, Historie der Ehefrau: konfirmiert 1836 in Himbergen

Kinder:

1) Korn, Juergen Heinrich Wilhelm, «13», 21.09.1840 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 22.09.1840 Himbergen

2) Korn, Catharina Dorothea Sophia, «2», 02.12.1842 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 07.12.1842 Himbergen

3) Korn, Catharina Dorothea Maria Elisabeth, «14», «17», «15», «3», 01.03.1845 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 09.03.1845 Himbergen

4) Korn, Friedrich Ferdinand Carl, 15.04.1849 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 18.04.1849 Himbergen, 24.02.1853 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 27.02.1853 Himbergen

5) Korn, Jürgen Heinrich, «16», 18.05.1851 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 21.05.1851 Himbergen

6) Korn, Johann Heinrich Ferdinand, 02.08.1853 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 07.08.1853 Himbergen, konfirmiert 28.04.1867 in Himbergen

7) Korn, Kathrine Marie Elisabeth, «18», 31.05.1856 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 03.06.1856 Himbergen, 14.10.1887 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 16.10.1887 Himbergen

8) Korn, Kathrine Marie, «1», 06.10.1858 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 13.10.1858 Himbergen

9) Korn, August Heinrich Wilhelm Ferdinand, 25.04.1862 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 01.05.1862 Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 05.05.1862 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, 07.05.1862 Himbergen

10) Korn, Catharine Margarethe, 02.08.1864 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 04.08.1864 Himbergen, 12.08.1864 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 14.08.1864 Himbergen

9 Korn, Carl August Friedrich, , 25.03.1823 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 18.07.1876 Westersunderberg Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 21.07.1876 Himbergen

01.03.1846 Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen

Gerstenkorn, Catharina Maria, 21.03.1815 Brockhimbergen Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 22.03.1815 Himbergen, das Ehepaar hatte 5 Kinder

10 Korn, Heinrich Jacob, , err. 1825 Drage, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 30.01.1867 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 02.02.1867 Himbergen

14.11.1847 Himbergen

Brechen, Anna Magdalena, 25.06.1820 Dorfmark, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, Historie der Ehefrau: das Ehepaar hatte 2 Kinder

11 Korn, Johann Heinrich Christian, , 14.07.1828 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 15.07.1828 Himbergen

05.02.1854 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen

Franck, Catharina Maria Margaretha, «4», 18.12.1828 Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 21.12.1828 Himbergen

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Korn, Catharina Elisabeth, , 09.04.1835 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 12.04.1835 Himbergen, Historie der Mutter: konfirmiert 1.4.1849 in Himbergen

Kind:

1) Korn, Friedrich Wilhelm, 29.07.1855 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 05.08.1855 Himbergen, konfirmiert 1869 in Himbergen

13 Korn, Juergen Heinrich Wilhelm, Zinngiesser, , 21.09.1840 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 22.09.1840 Himbergen, Historie des Ehemanns: konfirmiert am 1.4.1855 in Himbergen

12.03.1865 Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen

Schroetke, Catharina Dorothea, 03.06.1836 Klein Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 06.06.1836 Himbergen, 31.12.1895 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 03.01.1896 Himbergen, das Ehepaar hatte 7 Kinder

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Korn, Catharina Dorothea Maria Elisabeth, , «17», «15», «3», 01.03.1845 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 09.03.1845 Himbergen

Kind:

1) Korn, Katharine Dorothee, 22.03.1871 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 25.03.1871 Himbergen

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Korn, Catharina Dorothea Maria Elisabeth, , «14», «17», «3», 01.03.1845 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 09.03.1845 Himbergen

Kind:

1) Korn, Katharina Maria Dorothea, 10.01.1883 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 21.01.1883 Himbergen

16 Korn, Jürgen Heinrich, Boettcher, , 18.05.1851 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 21.05.1851 Himbergen, Historie des Ehemanns: konfirmiert 9.4.1865

29.10.1871 Himbergen

Pijas, Catharina Dorothea, 08.03.1849 Timmeitz, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, Ehepaar hatte 2 Kinder

17 Seil, August Friedrich Wilhelm, Dienstknecht, Historie des Ehemanns: 1872 Gross Thondorf

vor 1872

Korn, Catharina Dorothea Maria Elisabeth, , «14», «15», «3», 01.03.1845 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 09.03.1845 Himbergen

Kind:

1) Seil, Marie Elisabeth, 04.12.1872 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 26.12.1872 Himbergen

18 Tiele, Heinrich Adolph Friedrich Georg, Dienstknecht

03.01.1880 Himbergen

Korn, Kathrine Marie Elisabeth, , 31.05.1856 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 03.06.1856 Himbergen, 14.10.1887 Gross Thondorf Ksp Himbergen, Quelle: OFB Himbergen, 16.10.1887 Himbergen, Ehepaar hatte 4 Kinder

Notice 1 : This means she was sepparated from Her husband Seil and the word geschieden means divorce according to a translator.

Thanks so much for your interest in my family Korn from Hildesheim and Himbergen Kries Uelzen.

Be sure to check the information for Lizzies birth and her parents August Friedrich Wilhelm SEIL marriage to Katharina Dorothea Maria Elisabeth KORN

Genealogy surnames of My family - SEIL, KORN, SCHMIDT, BROOKMANN, MEYER

You all have met my Lizzie Seil through my story on my March blog of 'brave and tragic' woman. Through my story you learned about those others of her family. AugustFriedrich Wilhlem Seil, and his grand- daughter Annie Seil Meyer.

I'd like to share the first Documents of that family that I received. I regret that I just never got around to writing for more information on that Seil family because we were interested to know if there were brothers and sisters of August Wilhelm Seil. And if there others of his parents families in that Bleckede area. I was really interested to know where the family came from before Dahlenburg. Family had him down from Hildesheim where the Korn family originated. So those are still unanswered questions for possible future stories.

I may have told you before about confirmation of Lizzies being August's daughter and information of her birth came through the book of Heinrich Porth a little later. [See note 1]

This letter is important to determine that August did marry Lizzies mother. We only had heard that Lizzie was a result of an affair. His marriage in Iowa to Anna Vogel stated that it was his first marriage. Tom Vogel had his Chezchslovackian translator translate this church document for us as well as the translator I used too. He was interested as well, because it was his relative, Anna Vogel, whom our William married. My understanding of this church document is low. I am not sure if that document that follows is a dissolvement or divorce. I just don't know what it is. [As you read the story of Lizzie you saw that I posted the information I got from Gross Thondorf on her birth and her parents marriage]. But it was after that, that both parents of Lizzies remarried.

I had a copy of this document which I typed out in one of my old emails that I sent from one email to another in 2005 which I used to send to others. It holds an " enlightenment" for all us descendants of Elizabeth Seil in more ways than one.

I got a little data on Meyer, Seil, Korn, Heins, Henke, and
Luhman, Behrens, Reinecke Lusman from the church of dahlenburg. You
want more info, I can copy and send. I have gone two above J.H.
Friedrich Meyer now.
The parisher said he didn't have time for more.
I am so greedy, I still wonder what more they have. Now I wonder
how much I should send for donation. They never requested any. I
have sent 20 + already. Also, I maybe can write later and request
information on the remarriage and get the stepsisters names.
the translation site give me Rope instead of Seil. and not sure how
nut/mother gets there and there may be other names translated that
I did not pick up.
enjoy.....

Seil, August Friedrich Wilhelm (M) ev
* 30.05.1848 Dahlenburg
~ 04.06.1848 Dahlenburg
Auszug aus dem Taufregister der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde Dahlenburg
Nr. 40/1848 - Dahlenburg-
Seil, August Friedrich Wilhelm, geboren den dreißigsten Mai
(30.Mai), getauft den vierten Juni (4. Juni) Vater: Johann Jürgen
Heinrich Seil, ein Schäfer, Mutter: Ilse Marie geb. Brookmann.
Gev.: Jürgen Heinrich Lange und Georg August Ohlmeiers.

Seil, August Friedrich William (m) ev
* 30,05,1848 Dahlenburg
~ 04.06.1848 Dahlenburg
Single dump from the baptismal register ev. luth. Church
municipality Dahlenburg
NR. 40/1848 - Dahlenburg-
Seil, August Friedrich William, born thirtieth May (30.Mai),
baptized fourth June (4 June) father: Johann Juergen Heinrich Seil,
a shepherd, nut/mother: Ilse Marie geb. Brookmann. Gev.: Jürgen
Heinrich Lange and for George August Ohlmeiers.

1. Ehe :
~ 10.03.1872 Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Taufregister der ev.-luth.
Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf
Nr. 2/1872
SEIL, August Friedrich Wilhelm, unverehelichter Schäfer zu
Nüdlitz, geb. d. 30. Mai 1848 zu Dahlenburg, Eltern: Schäfer
Johann Jürgen Heinrich Seil zu Dahlenburg und dessen Ehefrau Ilse
Marie geborene Brookmann, mit Korn, Katharine Dorothea Marie
Elisabeth, unverehelichte Dienstmagd zu Nüdlitz, geb. den 1. Mäarz
1845 zu Groß Thondorf, Eltern: Zinngießer Heinrich Ferdinand Korn
zu Groß Thondorf und dessen Ehefrau Sophie Friederika geb Schmidt.
Tage des Aufgebots: den 3. und 10. März 1872 zu Nahrendorf, getr.
den zehnten März 1872.

Nachtrag: Zufolge des Urteils des Königlichen Obergerichts zu
Lüneburg vom 11.November 1875 ist die Genehmigung der
Kirchenkommission unter dem 4. December 1885 erteilt. Das document
liegt bei den Akten. Nahrendorf, am 8. December 1885 gez. Bruno
Bode
Die Genehmigung der K. Regierung zu diesem Nachtrage ist
nachträglich erteilt am 16. April 1887. gez. Bode

KORN, Katherine Dorothea Marie Elisabeth (F)ev
* 01.03.1845 Groß Thondorf = Himbergen
~ ? .03. 1845 Himbergen
1. Kind SEIL, Maria Elisabeth (F) ev
*1873 Dahlenburg
~1873 Dahlenburg
Die unteren zwei Zeilen auf der confirmationsbescheinigung
lauten: Denkspruch für: Elisabeth Seil/ Tag der Confirmation: 3.
April 1887/
Dein Lehrer und Seelsorger: Fr. Schmidt, Pastor.


1. Before:
~ 10,03,1872 Nahrendorf
single dump from the baptismal register ev. luth. Church
municipality Nahrendorf
No. 2/1872
Seil, August Friedrich William, unverehelichter shepherd to
Nüdlitz, geb. d. 30. May 1848 to Dahlenburg, parents: Shepherd
Johann Juergen Heinrich Seil to Dahlenburg and its wife Ilse Marie
born Brookmann, with Korn, Katharine Dorothea Marie Elizabeth,
unverehelichte service farm servant to Nuedlitz, geb. the 1. März
1845 excessively Thondorf, parents: Zinngießer (Tin caster)
Heinrich Ferdinand Korn of Groß Thondorf and its wife Sophie
Friederika geb Schmidt. Days of the quantity: 3 and 10 March 1872
to Nahrendorf, gearbox tenth March 1872.

Supplement: According to the judgement of the royal upper court
to Lüneburg from 11-November 1875 the permission of the church
commission under that is 4. December 1885 gives. The document is
situated with the documents. Nahrendorf, to 8. December 1885 gez.
Bruno Bode the permission of the K. Regierung for this enters
afterwards is subsequently given on 16 April 1887. gez. Bode

Korn, Katharine Dorothea Marie Elizabeth (F)ev
* 01,03,1845 largely Thondorf = Himbergen
~ ? 03. 1845 Himbergen 1st child Seil, Maria Elizabeth (f) ev *
1873 Dahlenburg ~1873 Dahlenburg the lower two lines on
confirmationsbescheinigung read: Maxim for: Elizabeth rope / day of
the Confirmation: 3. April 1887 / your teacher and Seelsorger: Fr.
Schmidt, minister

Note 1:
tHE BOOK" Die Familien und Einwohner des Kirchspiels HimbergenDie Familien und Einwohner des Kirchspiels Himbergen - Series Quellen und Darstellugen zu Gesheichte von Stadt und Kreis Uelzen --Bd 6
Pagination : 498p.
Gunda Friesch - Heinrich Porth Himbergen : ISBN 13: 9783929864106 LCCN:
HTTP://.Wiki-de.gnealogy.net/Himbergen.OFB

Note 2 :
Mrs Nowack had sent me a copy of Lizzies confirmation paper that she must have submitted to the church at St. Peters Lutheran Church also called Christ Lutheran Church. I had sent a copy of her babtism with a question about it as I wrote to the Dahlenburg church archives. After receiving information of her parents ties to a Schmidt, I kind of wondered if there was any relationship there with the pastor.

Comment :
I felt somehow in the report on this family that there was like a repeat in what I had said. Notice that the church mentions only a little on Lizzie and little on the confirmation. it seemed as if the church parroted what I had told them. At that time, I hadn't seen the information that Himbergen Kries Uelzen contained. Also at the time I was writing Lizzies stories with my book buried in a box, I had also forgotten that she was born in 1872. Thank goodness for contact at ancestry from Marlies Vollmer with her information, so I could correct myself.

This information also helps us see when August would have left for America. It would not be at least until after his marriage. In several census he is listed as 1872, 1873, 1875. Naturalized 1880 at Will county illinois. I still have to find his passenger list.

If you understand this document after the marriage date mentioned, by all means please expand on it for me.