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Saturday, December 27, 2008

Christmas, Is It Just Another day or a Traditional Happy Holiday For You?

Sometimes at Holidays, my mother used to jokenly say, it's just another day. Maybe those were the days that she had chicken instead of the christmas goose. Mother never acted as if it was just another day. At least not until she was in declining years. There was always evidence of Christmas to come and other holidays with the decorations around galore.

I can no longer spend christmas with my mother. And I did not attempt to imitate my mother's celebration of Christmas. My family got together for christmas day celebration with my husbands family. I no longer drive four or five hours over the hills and through the woods to get together with my birth family. Dear Peg had at least two other celebrations of christmas with her extended family groups, so we were not the only reason for her holiday decor! That girl doesn't take the easy way that is for sure. It is the good silverware and the china everytime. She is The best Hostest all around; just as if I were at my mother's house for christmas.

Holiday cheer.
It was Christmas day and the house was all decorated with Holiday cheer.
Outside there was evidence of snow fallen. Santa had no trouble that evening before making his way to this house. No snowflakes during the day except those above the window. More on those handsome snowflakes to come at another blog site later.

Everything was ready as usual.
We were all cheerful and merry at Peg and Steve's house. I guess her newest acquisition of the booze dispenser helped elevate that. I had a nice christmas day there as usual, even though I worked later that afternoon. So I understood the delay in opening the gifts. The gifts were opened in the afternoon going from person to person. It takes a very long time. [I am not sure if it is a german tradition or norwegian one.] My gift was a nice surprise for my return from work. So I guess it extended my Holiday.

My little family had exchanged gifts this year on Christmas eve instead of our traditional christmas morning. I had always stubbornly insisted on a getting together at christmas eve out of some kind of loyalty to my family habits. And the Husband did the same by wanting time in the morning showing loyalty to his family.
.... Plus the Christmas dinner with his family...The Table is welcoming to the oncoming Dinner Guests

The meal was as the son said just what he had been hopeing for and expecting..

The Christmas spirit is enhanced by the young ones.
When there are young ones around, it does seem like the Christmas spirit is enhanced. It was so in our case. This special christmas baby was a month older than the photo.

She was the center of attention next to the great dinner, which was so good we couldn't ignore it. I myself thought I could give the parents some free time, so captured the merry little baby for some precious moments.

It was not just another day, it was a special day.
All in all it was a very nice christmas that we all could share together. That it is most about. It just was not as my mother used to joke and say. It's just another day.

Note: Sorry the pictures are not shown at their best. I suppose there are ways of making the better shots. I just haven't learned all the tricks.

There were no christmas day church services for us.
Most services had been the evening before. So our celebration was limited into the home experiences. My daughter had wanted to attend a service. Maybe next year we can plan better. I think I said that last year about the christmas holiday plans. [Wink]

How did you spend Christmas?
Like your family always has? Your way? New ways? Not at all?
I hope You all had a Merry Christmas celebrated as a tradition by each of you in your own specially created ways. I would love to hear how you celebrated it. Even if for some of you it was just another day. Please leave a comment.

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Thursday, December 4, 2008

Herman Meyer to marry in IOWA

How about that. A Meyer returns to Iowa to marry. It is however the wrong county. But is by Greene county. He will marry in Pochantas Dec. 12, 2008. I guess he will not be living there. He is Herman Meyer. But they could not call him Herman Junior since he was a grandson. So they called him Herman Meyer II. He did take on a nickname. He had a birthday this week. So I Wish him happiness on his wedding, and a belated birthday. When my computer gets fixed, I will add in a nice picture of Herman Meyer II.

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Thursday, November 20, 2008

Any One In The Family Care To Research Henke?

Please do research the Henke family history, if you have the desire to do so. I have next to nothing on this familien name Henke. Hencke. The family name appeared on records around the cities of Muden Oertze bei Fassberg.

As you know she was Anna Marie Henke. She married Johann Heins. After birth of a few children they moved to Oldendorf. That is where Juergen Heinrich Wilhelm Meyer
[geb. eichdorf] married Maria Heins. I have often wondered how William Meyer met the daughter Maria Dorothea Heins. Perhaps the family moved there first. I have wondered if they had something to do with the hunting lodge at Roethen in the Goehrde area.

If you have results, would you please let me know what you find. Thank you.

Note: In America Heins took on the spelling of Heinz by the various relatives.

Monday, November 3, 2008


The above link is for viewing further information about Meyer Heins Marriage and children.

I think the Anna Marie Hencke Heinz looks like she walked out of a Jane Austin Movie. Or Charlotte Bronte Novel. I wonder if the uniform on the handsome gent could be a clue?

I wish I knew for sure if the captions are correct. Any one with the Meyer book know for sure? Was it corrected in your Meyer book? He most definately looks like the captioned Heinrich Heinz with Mrs Frau Heinz.

I believe this one is the oldest photo of oldest Ancestor that our family had. I believe Frieda Nahnsen said that it was suppose to Meyer. Though the caption in the Meyer book says Heinz.

Verl where are you? Can you tell us?

Comments on the correct name, very welcome.

Saturday, November 1, 2008

More on Maves, Mews, Mewes familien names

Ladies at left are Maternal Maves from Mewes family. Sorry pic can't be edited at the moment. The tree is a work in progress. You will be able to follow it at Since this blog is for the Maternal and paternal Meyer lines I have placed it on it's own Wi blog spot. Maves is on the Husby/ Johnsen tree..

Maves, Mewes, Mews surname Search in genealogy.

I was in contact with Fraulein Roth. She of the most generous sweet nature gave me copy of her digging into the Maves family history. Her tree falls under Gotttlieb/Friedrich/William/Wilmer Maves line. She gave me permission to add to my own source. Some of which is very similar. A majority of her information came from the 1925 edition of the genealogy book of Dunn county.

She also mentioned that the Roth family came from Switzerland. For the family of interest should be the name Engeldinger. Brief glimpses in the name brings up Switzerland familie names they married and the name Hein.

It is a source I have already been access to from the local genealogy group in that county. [Also at the county library there is a booklet by a lady named French in the genealogy collection.]
Dunn county has done much in the genealogy field. Among leaders in that field I will give credit to Linda Schwartz. If any of your Maves line connect with norway, I suggest you check out her site. At the list of links at my side. As I said there are quite a few places of evidence of her work and others. Here is another link you can copy and paste, if you wish.

Others in regards to Dunn county.
You will find many yourself by the google tool.

In order to protect the living I will make some changes in the copy I have already. I will update it with a few of the obituaries and facts from the church about marriages or births, if I can. I will list names. Then if anyone has any further questions, please email me or comment.

I accidently clicked on some spyware fake websites. So my own computer is down. One must be more careful than I have been. [ click x if you can and retreat]. In addition, one must be very careful of messenger invitations to check out their sites. So now I have to bear the consequences. I will be around, but not as much for a short amount of time without the pictures and documents that I have collected. I do not know how the loss of internet explorer will affect the blog. I am currently trying to find out if anything or something has to be saved.

I shall be moving Maves tree to another email address soon. The roots of it all. Primarily it will concentrate on the Maves and related information regarding that tree and it's location. Mainly because it's history comes from Pommerania. I deal more with Hannover Kingdom.
Comments welcome.

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Friday, October 31, 2008

Stettin Location on Google Map for Charles Maves Family

Charles MAVES, MEWS, MEWES was from Stettin, Pommern. I wouldn't be surprised if the other family surnames were as well.
I have given you a few sites that you might want to check. You can see that Stettin is now Szczecin, Poland. Vorpommern or was called Pommern. It will probably be a difficult area to research. Though family search .org has some earlier data before 1800.

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Szczecin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Szczecin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Oder River in Szczecin
Oder River in Szczecin
Flag of Szczecin
Flag Coat of arms of Szczecin
Coat of arms
Nickname(s): Floating Garden
Motto: 'Szczecin jest otwarty'
('Szczecin is open')
Szczecin (Poland)
Coordinates: [show location on an interactive map] 53°25′N 14°35′E / 53.417, 14.583
Country Poland
Voivodeship West Pomeranian
County city county
Established 8th century
Town rights 1243
- Mayor Piotr Krzystek
- City 301 km² (116.2 sq mi)
Population (2007)
- City 407,811
- Density 1,354.9/km² (3,509.1/sq mi)
- Metro 777,000
Time zone CET (UTC+1)
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Postal code PL-70-017
to 71-871
Area code(s) +48 91
Car plates ZS
City Hall
The Old Town Hall, now the city's history museum
The Old Town was rebuilt in the late 1990s, consisting of new buildings, some of which were reconstructions of buildings destroyed in WWII
The town's fortifications as seen in 1642
Harbour as seen in 1900"

FAQ.pommern - Pomerania, Prussia

FAQ.pommern - Pomerania, Prussia: "A1: Pommern was a Prussian province. Its capital was Stettin (pronounce:stet-TEEN). Q2: What was Pommern's recent history? A2: After the 30-Years-War (1648) Pommern consisted of two areas: Schwedish-Pommern in the West under Swedish rule and the Eastern area under the rule of the Brandenburg Electors. After the defeat of Napoleon, Sweden in 1815 renounced all her claims to areas in Germany incl. Pommern. Pommern West of the Oder River was also called Vorpommern (Cis-Pomerania), East of the Oder River Hinterpommern (Trans-Pomerania). In 1938 areas from the former provinces of Westpreussen and Posen which were lost after WWI were added in an administrative reform. Hinter-Pommern was cleansed of its ethnic German population and given to Poland in 1945. The Western powers were silent on the ethnic cleansing. Stettin was renamed Szczecin."

Fresh blood line found with familes Genealogy of Charles Maves family

A few days before Halloween a work buddy told me her daughter did some research and found out the Maves family is related to that daughter's son. She knew I had some data that I could put my finger on for this family. So a few of these blogs are in honor of that news. I always like to find fresh blood.........lines. tee hee.
So I hope that explains the title. lol. It was about three years ago on Halloween eve as I was checking my emails, I discovered that I had been the Fresh blood line found by my Mothers relative. I razzed him about it. He never confessed to the implication. I suspect it was his humor. At Halloween as I think of this, it makes me smile every time.

She must have done good research because the mother told me about land records and even told me the parents Of Herbert Maves. I do hope I have something here that she does not already have! And I hope she will share her Roth information with me.

At any rate this is the tree that the newly discovered blood line of Maves they fall into.

I. Father: Julius Frederick Maves.
Mother: Charlotte Louise Schwane.

II. Father: Johann Gottlieb MAVES.
Mother: Caroline YOEKES.

III. Charles MAVES
*Born: 18.SEP.1848 at Stettin, Germany
00 Married: 19 JAN 1869.
[Father:Johann Gottlieb MAVES].
Spouse: Augusta HEIN.
*Born: 20.SEP.1849 Germany.
+Died: 31.OCT.1920.

Lydia Maves.
*born: AFT.1868.

Albert MAVES.
*Born: AFT. 1868.
00 Married:
+ Died: UNKNOWN.
Spouses: Linda ALBRIGHT.

*Born: 11 JAN 1875
+Died: 25 DEC 1963.
Los Angeles County, California.
Spouses: Emma HOHLBINE.

*Born: AFT. 1868.
Spouses: Hulda SCHULTZ.

Max William MAVES.
*Born: 7 DEC 1879.
Spouses: Ida SCHAFER.

Victor MAVES
*Born: AFT. 1868.

Herbert Arthur MAVES.
*Born: 29 JUL 1888.
Spouses: Dorothy LUETHE.
[Some of the children John,Paul and Phyllis twins, HAZEL (PHILADELPHIA), Correne]

Nellie MAVES.

*Born: AFT. 1868.
Married: ABT. 1925.
Spouses: Edward LAUSTED.

George MAVES.
*Born: AFT. 1868.
Spouses: 1. Ella HALDEMANN. 2. Alma GASSER.

1) History of Dunn County, 1925
2) - WWI Draft Registration Card
3) Correspondence - Wilbur Wesley Maves to Clarence Emil Maves, November 13, 1982.

I have some information that I found at the court house quite a few years ago. I suppose I don't need to tell you, they are in a clutter of boxes waiting to be organized and filed. I have to move the boxes a little this weekend. I will add more here as time goes on.

Make sure you click on older posts for more information.

Also from this area of Menomonie, Dunn county you will find my posting soon about the family surname Jungck. They through marriages and descension connect to Juergen Wilhelm Meyer Tree. [Grote, Carstensen, Nahnsen, Rowe, Cummings, Lusman, Mosel, Subbert, Naefke]
Please, comment, correct me and email me. If you want.
additional information and stories would be great.
I always love to extend the blood line. arootdigger[at]

I may have to neglect the blog for a few days. In the mean time enjoy older postings, my blog rolls and for etra fun check out my blog Cottage Wannabe for that blog roll.

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Thursday, October 30, 2008

Passenger list of the ship Bark Mississippi.

The not so good snapshot of the Maves ladies in a celebration. It will have to do for now. The Maves tree is maternal line through a Husby Marriage. It is not in the Luhmann / Meyer Ancestry line. a shirt tail branch, of course. Therefore it would be best if You can read more at this blog.

~Maves, Mewes, Mews line~

Bark Mississippi ship passenger list. Johann Gottlieb Maves departed from Bremen in 10.June.1856. He is listed on two pages. - New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Joh Golde Maves
Name: Joh Golde Maves
Arrival Date: 10 Jun 1856
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Bremen, Germany
Destination: Chicago, Illinois
Place of Origin: Prussia
/Nationality: Prussian (German)
Ship Name: Mississippi
Search Ship Database: Search the Mississippi in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 51
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll: M237_163
List Number: 450
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States

Note: Taken from - Historical Passenger lists. Page 3 and 4.

Immigrant Ships
Transcribers Guild

Bark Mississippi

Bremen to New York
10 June 1856


I, Carl ? Gerdes Master of the Bremen bark Mississippi do solemnly, sincerely and truly swear that the following List or Manifest, subscribed by me, and now delivered by me to the Collector of the Customs of the Collection District of New York, is a full and perfect list of all the passengers taken on board of the said Mississippi at Bremen from which port said Mississippi has now arrived; and that on said list is truly designated the age, the sex, and the occupation of each of said passengers, the part of the vessel occupied by each during the passage, the country to which each belongs and also the country of which it is intended by each to become an inhabitant; and that said List or Manifest truly sets forth the number of said passengers who have died on said voyage; and the names and ages of those who died. So help me God, Carl ? Gerdes Sworn to this 10 June 1856 Before me (signature unreadable)

List or Manifest of all the passengers taken on board the Bremen bark Mississippi whereof Carl ? Gerdes is Master, from Bremen burthen 500 tons.

Columns represent: Number, Names, Age in Years, Age in Months (abbreviated as y and m for infants), Sex, Occupation, The country to which they severally belong, The country in which they intend to become inhabitants, Died on the voyage. There was a column for Part of the vessel occupied by each during the voyage. A column for baggage was added by the captain. The transcriber has omitted these last two columns. For the information in them, please see the transcriber’s notes at the end of this list.

1 Wilhelm Werneburg 28 male M.D. Hessia New York
2 Johann Fetsgen 31 male merchant U S. of America Philadelphia
3* vom Endt 45 male capt. of ???? Prussia New York
4 Amalia Brandt 26 fem Prussia New York
5 Friedr Mogelin 40 male watchmaker Prussia Chicago
6 Math Mat Mogelin 30 fem Prussia Chicago
7 Laura Ant Mogelin 5 fem Prussia Chicago
8 Ida Mogelin 3 fem Prussia Chicago
9 Otto Mogelin 1 male Prussia Chicago
10* Theod Vict Krake 30 male merchant Lippe New York
11* Sophie Krake 18 fem Lippe New York
12 Johanne Blettner 25 fem Braunschweig New York
13* Therese Walthor 24 fem Bavaria Columbia
14 Eduard Euker 21 male con?itor Hessia Baltimore
15 Helene Hesselbein 19 fem Hessia Baltimore
16 Elisab Marcrander 21 fem Hessia Baltimore
17 Adolph Stede 20 male goldsmith Braunschweig Boston
18 Johannes Peter 29 male farmer Hannover St Louis
19* Catherine Schruer 19 fem Hannover New York
20 Heinrich Greve 20 male farmer Hannover Missouri
21 Friedr Lockemacher 58 male farmer Hannover New York
22 Dorette Wurth 58 fem Hannover New York
23 Emmea Wurth 18 fem Hannover New York
24 Minna Wurth 15 fem Hannover New York
25* Alex vonD??e 23 male engineer Prussia Philadelphia
26 Amelia Jacobi 28 fem Hessia New York
27 Franz Gust Schneider 19 male waiter Saxonia New York
28 Elise Klapp 19 fem Hessia New York
29 Caroline Klapp 17 fem Hessia New York
30 Wilhelm Schultheiss 30 male binder Bavaria New York
31 Ernst Tusslein 27 male tailor Prussia New York
32 Doroth Luce 46 fem Coburg New York
33 Nichol Sawikowsky 26 male tailor Coburg New York
34 Julianne Sawikowsky 28 fem Prussia New York
one child born June 9th fem
35 Catherine Luce 16 fem Prussia New York
36 Dietr Loose 17 male Hannover Hew York
37 Carl Semmhole 26 male farmer Hannover New York
38 Theod Orbel 28 male tailor Saxonia Chicago
39 Ang Am Orbel 22 fem Saxonia Chicago
40 Fr Pfeiffer 25 male shoemaker Prussia Massachusetts
41 Heinr Albers 36 male smith Hannover Iowa
42 Take Marg Albers 33 fem Hannover Iowa
43 Bernhard Albers 9 male Hannover Iowa
44 Johann Albers 7 male Hannover Iowa
45* Heinrich Albers 9m male Hannover Iowa
46 Sebastian Marz 30 male blaksmith Bavaria New York
47 Carl Egert 36 male oilmuller Bavaria New York
48 Friedr Nicol 35 male butcher Bavaria New York
49 Heinr Wittpenn 22 male farmer Hannover New York
50 Dorette Simon 25 fem Hannover New York
51 Albertine Bleier 21 fem Hannover New York
52 Heinrich Wieters 24 male farmer Hannover New York
53 Meta Tietjen 22 fem Hannover New York
54 Beka Tietjen 16 fem Hannover New York
55 Heinrich Wellbrook 15 male Hannover New York
56 Friedr Albabe 48 male millwright Hessia New York
57 Balthaser Albabe 18 male Hessia New York
58 Friedr Seidel 34 male mason Saxonia New York
59 David Fried 17 male Hessia New York
60 Lea Weirmann 23 fem Bavaria New York
61 Kunig Sieb 19 fem Bavaria New York
62 Joh Gierisch 43 male barber Prussia New York
63 Sophie Gierisch 29 fem Prussia New York
64 Bertha Gierisch 13 fem Prussia New York
65 Ferdinand Gierisch 11 male Prussia New York
66 Rosalie Gierisch 9 fem Prussia New York
67 Auguste Gierisch 4 fem Prussia New York
68 Carl Gierisch 1 male Prussia New York
69 Sophie Meier 24 fem Prussia New York
70 Wilhelm Schlesier 26 male cooper Saxonia New York
71 Aug Vallert 26 male farmer Saxonia New York
72 Julius Meischke 32 male blacksmith Saxonia New York
73 Hermann Seiffert 18 male joiner Saxonia New York
74 Adam Werner 24 male farmer Saxonia New York
75 August Kleic 26 male wodmaker Brunswig New York
76 Heinrich Deisinroth 28 male mason Hessia New York
77* Christian Muhlbrunna 26 male gardener Wurtemberg New York
78 Wilhelm Zeisenmuth 37 male farmer Hessia New York
79 Norbert Straker 42 male farmer Prussia New York
80 Franziska Straker 26 fem Prussia New York
81 Bernhard Straker 10 male Prussia New York
82 Johann Straker 8 male Prussia New York
83 Caspar Straker 9m male Prussia New York
84* Lisette a?f?em Kolk 45 fem Prussia New York
85 Anna Cath Koch 30 fem Prussia New York
86 Andreas Wagner 23 male farmer Bavaria Milwaukee
87 John Muller 33 male farmer Prussia Milwaukee
88 Friedre Muller 30 fem Prussia Milwaukee
89 Louise Fr Muller 7 fem Prussia Milwaukee
90 Joh Friedr Muller 5 male Prussia Milwaukee
91 Math Kalka 32 male farmer Hannover Milwaukee
92 Johann Fick 37 male farmer Prussia Milwaukee
93 Wilhelm Fick 13 male Prussia Milwaukee
94 Friedr W Bahrt 25 male butcher Prussia Milwaukee
95 Friderike Bahrt 26 fem Prussia Milwaukee
96 Wilhelm Baumiehl 30 male farmer Prussia Milwaukee
97* Valentin Borner 59 male mason Lasconia Milwaukee
98* Anna Marg Borner 22 fem Lasconia Milwaukee
99* Johannes Borner 18 male mason Lasconia Milwaukee
100 Conrad Sprick 35 male farmer Lippe Milwaukee
1 Wilhelmina Sprick 25 fem Lippe Milwaukee
2 Aug Kemper 36 male farmer Lippe Milwaukee
3 Wilhe Stahl 25 fem Lippe Milwaukee
4 Jette Baker 23 fem Lippe Milwaukee
5 Ernst Michelke 59 male tailor Prussia Milwaukee
6 Mar Elis Michelke 57 fem Prussia Milwaukee
7 Julius Michelke 32 male ropemaker Prussia Milwaukee
8 Carl Rud Michelke 27 male ropemaker Prussia Milwaukee
9 Joh Ernst Michelke 23 male turner Prussia Milwaukee
110 Wilhelm Fick 36 male farmer Prussia Milwaukee
11 Friedre Fick 35 fem Prussia Milwaukee
12 Louise Fick 10 fem Prussia Milwaukee
13 Wilhelm Fick 7 male Prussia Milwaukee
14 Wilhelmine Fick 3 fem Prussia Milwaukee
15 Ferdenand Fick 8m male Prussia Milwaukee
16 Christian Hoppe 58 male farmer Prussia Milwaukee
17 Johan?? Dietke 16 male Hannover Milwaukee
18 Anna Marg Dietke 14 fem Hannover Milwaukee
19 Joh Saml Schmidt 49 male farmer Saxonia Milwaukee
120 Caroline Schmidt 22 fem Saxonia Milwaukee
121* Christ Lohn 34 male farmer Prussia Milwaukee
22* Caroline Lohn 32 fem Prussia Milwaukee
23* Wilhelm Lohn 9 male Prussia Milwaukee Died*
24* Ferdinand Lohn 7 male Prussia Milwaukee
25* Louise Lohn 6 fem Prussia Milwaukee
26* Wilhelmine Lohn 4 fem Prussia Milwaukee
27* Christian Lohn 1 male Prussia Milwaukee
28* Auguste Lohn 3m fem Prussia Milwaukee
29* Aug Ferd Pr?witz 24 male tailor Prussia Milwaukee
130 Fried W. Brandt 20 fem Prussia Milwaukee
31 Friedr Jocks 26 male farmer Prussia Chicago
32 Wilhelmine Jocks 24 fem Prussia Chicago
33 Auguste Jocks 22 fem Prussia Chicago
34 Friedricke Jocks 58 fem Prussia Chicago
35* Friedrich Hormann 57 male farmer Hannover Chicago
36* Margr Hormann 37 fem Hannover Chicago
37* Ferdinand Hormann 28 male Hannover Chicago
38* Helene Hormann 26 fem Hannover Chicago
39* Wilhelm Hormann 7 male Hannover Chicago
140* Dorothea Hormann 5 fem Hannover Chicago
141* Mina Hormann 10m fem Hannover Chicago Died
42 Friedr Zamach 29 male farmer Prussia Chicago
143 Henriette Zamach 23 fem Prussia Chicago
144* Joh Gott Maves 34 male farmer Prussia Chicago
145* Joh Crist Carl Maves 29 fem Prussia Chicago
146* Carl Maves 7 male Prussia Chicago
147* Friedrich Maves 5 male Prussia Chicago
148* August Maves 3y 6m male Prussia Chicago Died
149* Wilhelm Maves 11m male Prussia Chicago
150 Wilhelm Marquardt 26 male farmer Prussia Chicago
151 Carl Pieper 27 male farmer Prussia Chicago
152 Ferd Kuhnecke 30 male miller Prussia Chicago
153 Samuel Simner 33 male farmer Prussia Chicago
154 Henriette Simner 31 fem Prussia Chicago
155 Carl Simner 5 male Prussia Chicago
156 Julius Simner 3 male Prussia Chicago
157 August Simner 1 male Prussia Chicago
158* Carl Nolting 57 male innkeeper Prussia Indianapolis
159* Louise Nolting 37 fem Prussia Indianapolis
160* Johanne Nolting 18 fem Prussia Indianapolis
161* Carl Nolting 14 male Prussia Indianapolis
162* Louise Nolting 11 fem Prussia Indianapolis
63* Marie Nolting 7 fem Prussia Indianapolis
64* Ottilie Nolting 5 fem Prussia Indianapolis
65* Wilhelm Nolting 11m male Prussia Indianapolis
66 Heinrich Schilling 26 male farmer Prussia Indianapolis
67 Caroline Schilling 23 fem Prussia Indianapolis
68 Eleanore Watermann 20 fem Prussia Indianapolis
69 Caroline Muller 19 fem Prussia Indianapolis
170 Friedr Rosiner 25 male farmer Prussia Indianapolis
171 Christ Brandt 19 male farmer Prussia Indianapolis
172 Carl Dammeier 19 male farmer Prussia Indianapolis
173 Carl Rose 24 male farmer Prussia Indianapolis
174* Carl Busking 21 male farmer Prussia Indianapolis
175* Wilhelmine Busking 16 fem Prussia Indianapolis
76 Georg Schurz 56 male farmer Bavaria New York
77 Jacob Roos 27 male weaver Wurtemberg New York
78 Jacob Fischer 28 male clothweaver Wurtemberg New York
79 Margr Fischer 24 fem Wurtemberg New York
180 Joh Georg Pfisterer 24 male farmer Wurtemberg New York
181 Christine Pfisterer 18 fem Wurtemberg New York
82 Joh David Pfisterer 13 male Wurtemberg New York
83 Rosine Pfisterer 11 fem Wurtemberg New York
84 Margr Pfisterer 47 fem Wurtemberg New York
85 Herman Dorwig 28 male farmer Saxonia New York
86 Joh. Homann 58 male blacksmith Hessia New York
87 Kilian Homann 26 male brewer Hessia New York
88 Anna Mar. Homann 34 fem Hessia New York
89 Franz Mennell 27 male mason Hessia New York
190 Georg Mennell 22 male weaver Hessia New York
91 Friedr Delius 34 male shoemaker Prussia Brooklyn
92 Joh Rob Seidel 21 male weaver Austria Massachusetts
93 Peter H Muller 30 male farmer Hannover St. Louis
94 Joh Poppe 26 male driver Prussia Wisconsin
95 Cath Geiger 22 fem Bavaria Wilmington
96 Freidr Kursch 32 male miller Prussia Wisconsin
97 Carl Fr Briebenow 18 male farmer Prussia Wisconsin
98 Elis Disnowsky 24 fem Bavaria Albany
99* Conrad Gunder 18 male farmer Hessia Philadelphia
200* Joh Schafer 16 male miller Hessia Philadelphia
1 Heinr Fett 18 male farmer Hessia Philadelphia
202 Freidr Hartwig 53 male farmer Hannover Wisconsin
3 Franz Hartwig 20 male farmer Hannover Wisconsin
4 Caroline Hartwig 17 fem Hannover Wisconsin
5* Wilhelm Batjer 53 male weaver Hannover Saratoga
6 Carl W Gutterlet 18 male clerk Hessia Pittsburg
7 Georg Lanz 19 male mason Hessia Pittsburg
8 August Gerke 28 male stonecutter Lippe Cincinnati
9 Christ Arens 25 male segarmaker Lippe Cincinnati
210 August Henschel 33 male farmer Prussia Wisconsin
11 Wilhelm Henschel 26 fem Prussia Wisconsin
12* Theodor Schuler 32 male butcher Prussia Wisconsin
13* Wilhelme Schuler 28 fem Prussia Wisconsin
14* Franz Schuler 55 male miller Prussia Wisconsin
15 Joh Rieger 32 male farmer Hessia Pennsylvanie
16 Gertrude Rieger 32 fem Hessia Pennsylvanie
17 Adam Schneider 20 male clothweaver Hessia Canada
18 Gottlieb Meier 25 male weaver Hessia Wisconsin
19 Matth Pfeiler 22 male painter Bavaria Wisconsin
220 J. F. Donath 28 male locksmith Saxonia Wisconsin
21 Franz R Donath 6m male Saxonia Wisconsin
222 Aug Carl Richter 25 male farmer Prussia Wisconsin
23 Ottilie Gradwohl 22 fem Wurtemberg Wisconsin
24 Michael F Tickeruhn 58 male farmer Prussia Wisconsin
25 Louise Tickeruhn 57 fem Prussia Wisconsin
26 Charlotte Tickeruhn 25 fem Prussia Wisconsin
27 August Tickeruhn 19 male farmer Prussia Wisconsin
228 Heinrich Henning 48 male farmer Hessia Wisconsin
29 Catherine Henning 47 fem Hessia Wisconsin
230 Friedr Henning 12 male Hessia Wisconsin
31 Catherine Henning 10 fem Hessia Wisconsin
32 Johs Naumann 25 male farmer Hessia Wisconsin
33 Ludw H Dushow 45 male shoemaker Prussia Wisconsin
34 Wilhelmine Dushow 48 fem Prussia Wisconsin
35 Albert Dushow 18 male cooper Prussia Wisconsin
236 Carl Dushow 15 male Prussia Wisconsin
237 Wilhelm Dushow 13 male Prussia Wisconsin
38 Catherine Stein 65 fem Hessia Canada
39 Conrad Stein 37 male smith Hessia Canada
240 Wilhelm Stein 25 male tailor Hessia Canada
241 Catherine Stein 16 fem Hessia Canada
242 Marg Nowolny 41 fem Austria New York
243 August Nowolny 6 male Austria New York
244 Franz Nowolny 4 male Austria New York
245 Anna Brekiner 38 fem Bavaria Greenbay
246 Anna Brekiner 10 fem Bavaria Greenbay
247 Heinrich Fischer 23 male farmer Hannover Erie
248 Ludwig Meier 29 male farmer Hannover Erie
249 Carl Fr Ette 23 male waiter Prussia New York

Cabin 45
Btwn Dks 204 (Signed) Carl ? Gerdes

Transcriber's notes:

Part of the vessel occupied by each passenger during the voyage:
1-45 are listed as occupying Second cabin & house on deck
46-249 are listed as occupying steerage between deck

1 has 2 trunks
2 has 1 trunk
For the rest of the passengers, the captain listed combined baggage as follows:
3 and 4 have combined baggage of 2 trunks
5-9 have combined baggage of 7 trunks
10-12 have combined baggage of 5 trunks
13-16 have combined baggage of 6 trunks
17-37 have combined baggage of 14 boxes & trunks
38-45 have combined baggage of ? chests
46-73 have combined baggage of 29 trunks
74-110 have combined baggage of 37 trunks, chests and boxes
111-139 have combined baggage of 10 boxes etc
140-147 have combined baggage of 9 boxes etc
148-188 have combined baggage of 21 trunks etc
189-227 have combined baggage of 34 boxes & trunks
228-249 have combined baggage of 11 boxes etc

Other notes:
3: no given name entered. Occupation is capt. of what could be “sotd.” I checked this against the transcription in Germans to America. Apparently that transcriber couldn’t make it out either and just entered “capt.”
10-11: umlaut over a
13: umlaut over o
19: umlaut over u
25: the only letters in this surname I’m sure of are D and e. It could be Du?ve. Germans to America calls it Dwve.
45: age is written as 9 3/5 in the month column
77: Germans to America has this name as Muhlbrunner, I see it as Muhlbrunna
84: even Germans to America did not attempt to transcribe this second name
97-99: umlaut over o
123: fell overboard and was drowned
121-128: unlaut over o
129: ? in name is smudged; could be Prawitz or Prewitz
135-141: umlaut over o
144-149: umlaut over a
158-165: Germans to America sees this name as Wolting, but the W does not resemble other Ws on this list
174-175: umlaut over u
175: heavy line drawn through this name; I can’t be absolutely sure of the name
199: umlaut over u
200: umlaut over a
205: umlaut over a
212-214: umlaut over u
229: heavy line drawn through this name Correspondence 4/27/00 My Ancestors Twin brother was # 70 Wilhelm SCHLESIER on the ship "Bark Mississippi" from Bremen to New York that arrived on 10 Jun 1856. He resided in Manhattan and in latter life Brooklyn, NY. He was in the Civil War and he was a Cooper all his life. Wilhelm Schlesier was: 1. Born 28 July 1829 in Altenburg, Saxony, Germany 2. Died 28 March 1904 at 71 N. 1st St, Brooklyn, NY 3. Private in 11th Regiment, NY Veteran Volunteers from 1861 to 1863, (2 years and 3 months) and was stationed at Fort Castle Williams, Governers Island, NYC NOTE A LITTLE KNOWN FACT! The above military information is not in the National Archives as All Military that that did not go to battles and stayed in their home states were not considerered by the archivists to be in the Civil War. This leaves probably 500,000 to a million soldiers that are not registered in the National Archives as being in the Civil war. They show up in the 1890 Federal Military Census, if they were still alive. Wilhelms brother Carl Schlesier was a private in the 28th Reg,Co A, New York National Guard, for about 3 years during the Civil War. His Regiment was called for 30 days, to the Battle of Gettysburg. Therefore he is listed in the National Archives as being in the Civil war for 30 days.Robert A. Schlesier Correspondence 1/19/02 passenger #21 Lockemacher/Lackemacher Friedrick Lockemacher, passenger 21, is believed to be Johann Friedrich Lackemacher b 1798 father of Wilhelm L. Lackemacher b 1828. Wilhelm and his wife, Christine Rosenbohm arrived in 1852 aboard the ship Agnes. Friedrich would be my ggggrandfather. Karl Lackemacher

National Archives and Records Administration, Film M237, Reel 163.

Transcribed by Lois Mack Schill for the Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild
20 May 1999

Note : Jocks could be Yokes.

Source: - New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Wednesday, October 29, 2008

Thursday, October 23, 2008

What’s the Difference Between Typhus and Typhoid? - Blurtit

Typhus and Typhoid fever

Some days I just am unsure if my my ancestor Juergen Heinrich Wilhelm Meyer had typhus or typhoid at the time of his prisoner days at probably a flea invested Metz, France. It's possible he could have had the life threatening infliction at the end of the Franco Prussian war. When I tell this little fact I sound so wishy washy. So if your like me, when refering to this affliction of our ancestors it's good to get it correct rather than mention Thyphus and Thyphoid fever at the same time. So I shall help you and myself with an explanation here....
What’s the difference between typhus and typhoid? - Blurtit

Wednesday, October 15, 2008

Maria Meyer, Mother and Daughter on the Manifest of Ship Frisia

Manifest of  Immigration Passenger list

If I had left this document black and white, my Highlighter would have blackened out everything. I shouldn't have highlighted my information. But it felt so good at the time. But it does help you pin point their location on this page.

This is Maria Dorothea (Heins) Meyer on the same page as her daughter Maria or Mary Meyer. Mary married into the Nahnsen family. Just as her sister Frieda, who was born in Iowa years later.
For a group picture of the Meyer daughters you can see them in a photograph taken from the Meyer book.

I am sorry to say that the rest of the familly will have to wait until further posting. Yeaaah, once I go through and file pages in the boxes I have accumulated.

jo arootdigger

Castle Garden Immigration source results for Hch. Frd.Herrman Meyer

Castle Garden
Our Ancestors passed through many ports. In this case it is the Castle Garden port that holds the records of our Meyer's Immigration. *You can find the lists at many sources. I looked in more than one source for these manifest numbers. Because Grandfather kept saying he had a brother Louis. Or at least I thought he said that. I will never know what Louis he was refereing too, because none have show up in my research* [ edited this in ]

The Manifest No. if the ships passage on the  1884 Immigration Passenger  ship Frisia was # 37694.I have said over and over that Juergen Heinrich Wilhelm Meyer and his wife Maria Dorothea Heins left Oldendorf, bei Nahrendorf for Hamburg in February.  [ According to a letter written by Anna Meyer Bennett]  From there they went to New York. There arrival is stated as April 8, 1884. They traveled with Dagevor or Dagefor. [ Dagefoerde ] which are relation on the maternal Heins side of the family.

Note: Barr with me, I always mix April 6 with April 8, so correct me, if I make the error. The answer to when they left is to be found in the Hamburg Passenger lists.

German to America volumes of Books or Cd. I will give you copy of that manifest soon for each person. It is similar to that which we find at Castle
- See how Herman's name has the double r.
-I had seen these all in a email, but the email is no longer available.
Castle Garden

jo Arootdigger

Document Body of Emigrationof the Document seal from Nahrendorf church carried by Herman Meyer

scanned by jo arootdigger - copyright

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Now we see the whole entire bottom half of the church seal document.  I know I know it needs to be rescanned and I  need to ditch the pink and yellow.

Yesterday, I posted a simile of the church seal. So today I deleted it. I was wrong there were only two words on the church seil, which are Kirohensiegel and Nahrendorf. Not siegel der kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf.... as I thought it had been. Nor was it a red brown color. I suppose the error will be out there forever. That will teach me, won't it. We do learn from our errors. I should be well educated by now!

Now we saw the bottom main body of the letter. With out the cut off on the right side. We should be able to read it much better.

jo arootdigger

Document of the Traveling Papers of Herman Meyer

At the top of this Document you will see the name Herman H. Meyer written in pencil. It is funny that though he was actually Hch. Frd. Hermann, He was always known as Herman H.Meyer. [I did notice that when he got married he used the correct name.] I have wondered how many copies of this document they had. I suppose each child had his own. Eighteen eighty one is his birth year. [ we originally thought it was 1883.]
I wonder whose handwriting that is in pencil.

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Tuesday, October 14, 2008


~ Family history- Catharina Margarthea Luhmann's Sisters from Eichdorf ~

I received some records from researcher Friedrich Burmester of Bleckede several years back. I was given it as a reduced rate before his busy season began. I had asked for verification of each of our Cathrina Margaretha Luhmann Meyer sisters. Now bear in mind that they were hand written in German old style. Some words are still not clear to me. Perhaps some day, I can find a willing reader to tell me what it says, if I can get around to scanning the documents. I need to find original letter to double check what I have here. My info is not correlating to another I found.

It was up to me to see if they belonged with my records or not. I am not sure if they all do. Just in case something else pops up it is nice to have.

Nr. 26 1855-1855 PAGEL, Maria geb Karstens, witwe des weil ...
Schifftsknecht [Shiphand Laborer]. Heinrich PAGEL from Glienitz.
Vater : - Hsw. Hans Heinrich KARSTENS in Schutschur
Mutter : - Sophie geb. KRUESE. She was 57 years old.
+ 21.Nov.1855 Nr. / 26 1855 Ang. 57 years.

+ Death- Nr.28 1857
Name: PAGEL, Cath. Doroth. Magdalene. A kinder died in Schuetschur.
+1 jahr 1 monthe 9 days.
Vater: - Hausling, Heinrich Wilhelm PAGEL in Schutschur ....
and frau Doroth. Magdalene geb LUHMANN.

Note: Doroth. Magdalene Luhmann geb.15 ap.1829. Married: oo 26.Dec.1850. She had already been married about 6 years. I am sure she had more children. Or Friederich Burmester would have seen more deaths. Though he did not pick up any other Births, either. + 16 Oct.1857

00/MD. 1850
Name:  PAGEL, HEINRICH Friedrich Wilhelm, shiphand or worker from Schuetschur.
md. / 00 26.Dec.1850
LUHMANN, Margaretha Magdalene Elisabeth, born 15 04.1829

Note : I might have added Margaretha myself just in case one substituted Margaretha for Magdalena.
This record is probably connected to the record below. It is probably to give me an understanding of the Dorth. Luhman Meyer mentioned directly below this next one.

00- 1830
Md-Name:  MEIER, Heinrich Christ., Einwohner... .. Musikus in Ventschau.
Vater : Heinrich Christ. Meier, Hauswirt in Ventschau.... mit [? ] with Kath. Doroth. KOHNKE ...? ...d. [probably daughter] Andreas Christ. KOHNKEE, ?? Hauswirth in ???.

Note: It could be Christian or Christoph.

+ Nr. 8/ 1844
Death- Name:  SCHULZ, Marie Cathr. Dorothee, tochter, daughter
Vater: - Hsw. Juergen Heinrich Wilhelm SCHULZ in Schutschur.
Mutter:  Doroth. MEYER [ or nee MEIER]. LUHMANN.
12 jahr, 9 m, 3 days

+ Nr.1 /1851
+ Death name: SCHULZE, Marie Doroth. Elisabeth of Schutschur, Eh. frau,
55 jahrs 1 Feb. Burial 4.Feb.1851...........da leben.
+ 1 feb. 4 Feb.1851 Nr. /1851.

Death - Nr. 12/ 1855
Husband und shiphand or laborer in Schuetschur.
+ 52 jahrs 3 months, 9 days.
Vater : - Hsw.] weil Juergen SCHULZE in Schuetschur ehefr. geb. ???
Mutter :  geb. GRIMMEL ???
+ 6.Mr.1855.
SCHULZ, Juergen Heinrich, Alt. of Schutschur 65 jahrs 3 days.
Vater:  [Hsw] Juergen Heinrich SCHULZ in Schutschur.
Mutter:  Margrethe Marie Grimmel.

- Nr. 18/ 1859
1827 ......?? alt man and wwe. SCHULZ, Juergen Heinrich of Nahrendorf [ with mit ] Cath. Marg. ?? TIMM. Johann Heinrich TIMM ??..... des Johann Heinrich .....Altgarge??.....des Kothners Johann Heinrich ... Altgarge.

00 05.Dec.1841 ? 4 / Nr.10
Young man single Juergen Heinrich Wilhelm SCHULZ in Schutschur.
[ehel] Johann ??? des??? .... Heinrich Juergen SCHULZ ....[*. dessen]Ehefrau] geb. WULF mit Jgfr. ] Anne Marie LUHMANN, geb. 7.Mr.1820 ....[ehel] daughter des Hauswirths] Johann Juergen LUHMANN in Eichdorf ?.D. [Ehefr] Anna Maria geb. REINEKE ..... zur Nahrendorf cop .10 Des 1841 .

Note: I need to get this one right cause it's possible a member of this family went to America. Her name is correct.


In records SCHULZE,-- in Lehstahl-- Johann Juergen year 1811 SCHULZE, Henrich of Quickborn worked in *Ahnendorf year 1813 SCHULTZ, Clara Margarethe geb. 1636- 05.sept.1754 ????
md. / 00 Juergen LUHMANN, who died 13.jan.1740. Christian Friedrich son of Juergen Luhmann. Christian Friedrich died 8 Feb. 1757.

Note : Now is the perfect time to remind you the sisters had this brother Luhmann, Johann Christoph geb. 15.12.1814 - Estate Manager at Ventschau. + died 27.July.1873.oo md 15.Mai.1859 to a widow Meier, or Meyer, Anna Dorothea Elisabeth of Sueschendorf. Maybe he married last of the children. But I do not see the marriage date for the sister who married the BARTEL of Eichdorf. I don't believe the Friederich Burmester found anything on that couple.

Note : The name CARSTEN(S) occurs with marriage of one or our Behrens to Carstens in Walmsburg.
Note: *Schultz of Ahnendorf could be just Ahndorf

-- work in progress -- jo  arootdigger

Sunday, September 28, 2008

Map for Oldendorf, Nahrendorf, Neetzendorf, Ventschau , Eichdorf and other villages by the Elbe river.

I am so pleased to be able to present a wonderful map of our area East of the Elbe river. My area of interest covers such a vast area of family residents. It shows Radenbeck where Meyer came from by Thomasburg all the way down to Göhrde as well as by Dannenberg.

View Larger Map

Be sure to scroll north and south and east.

If you like, check out my Blog roll link at the right. Genealogy of arootdigger.
I have added map views of the west area Of Luneburg Heide area by Munster and Bergen Celle.
And then a few posts back you find the tree of Maria Dorothea Heins. Which is my current work in progress. Continue back to see the tree.

From the Meyer book: Maria Dorothea Heins-

Wednesday, September 10, 2008

Found the Bell line -- Fairmont, Minnesota

Isn't it funny how you can find some information by chance. It seems like that, but is it really.

I may have explained once about the mystery man in Fairmont, Martin county in Minnesota to many of you. For those of you who have not heard of him, I will tell you. This man was a relative of mine he said. He told me that he had been asked to "keep an eye on me" while I lived there. My father did that. Oh boy what a surprise to me that was. Once I asked about how he was related. Two days for an hour or two he filled me in. He did it with associations. And it worked. It was too much to take in at once like that. I wrote very little down. I do still remember most of the associations. Over time my research brought back memories of what he told me. These associations, I will share later.

Note: I am going to edit this story later. It shall suffice for now.

One association that I will share now is the tie to Nahnsen / Meyer of Iowa. Perhaps even Murray. It is the tree connection to ours that I saw this morning. I may have seen the tree before. But as I browsed the tree the main name that rang a bell was the name BELL. One of those that was mentioned to me. Another surname of importance was the name Sorensen.

I promise to come back and work with this for you as soon as I can. I am sure I can pick up the laptop and share a bit more. At least the website link will be a start. Right?

So at anyrate. Have patience, I will be back to give the information that I learned today. It brings me close to one of my goals. That goal is to find that mystery family in Fairmont.
So until tomorrow then. Good bye.

Tuesday, September 2, 2008

Added Another Genealogist to my Links--The Geneaholic

I simply could not help myself. With a category like
Genealogicus Interruptus terminology, how could I not want to link to that.

At any rate he is a self confessed Geneaholic.
I am not sure, if he is on a twelve step program. I guess I will research his blog to find out that later. It will be easy to do now that I have put him on my blog roll. [I accidently deleted it once and now it is restored.]

Monday, September 1, 2008

Luhmann Family History Information From the Letter of a Family Member

Farnhamville street scene from Centennial of Farnhamville book

-----Original Message-----
From: Pegg
Subject: Frank Luhmann Family of Farnhamville, Iowa & Hendricks, Minnesota

Thu, 27 Sep 2001

I am the grandaughter of Frank Luhmann.

I think this is the Luhmann family you are trying to locate.

The Luhmann family immigrated from Bleckede (Kleinburg), Province of Hanover,
Germany in the spring of 1892. The farm one half mile west of Farnhamville,
Iowa, leading out from Main Street, was purchased from Obed Bassett.

Family arriving were:
Paternal Grandfather: Ernest Friederich (1811-1896)
Father: Christian Friederich Wilhelm (1847-1906)
Mother: Elizabeth Magdalene Louise Schmidt (1847-1916)
Son: Fred (1873-1906)
Son: Wilhelm (1874-1952)
Daughter: (Eliese (1876-1962)
Son: Heinrich (1878-1930)
Son: Franz Ernest Friederich (1882-1961)
Daughter: Dora (1887-1973)
Son: Carl (1888-1971)
Daughter: Lena (1890-1952)

Fred never married.

Wilhelm (Will) married Caroline Kandler. 2 Daughters Martha and Caroline

Eliese (Lizzie) married Wilhelm Wohne. 4 daughters Hilda, Lena, Frieda and

Heinrich (Hank) married Caroline Abel. 4 sons Otto, Leo, Earl and Archie

In 1909 Franz (Frank) married Bertha Anna Marie Burger (1892 - 1974) who came
to America from Hamburg, Germany in 1908. They remained on the estate until
it was sold to Joe Givens in 1914. Then with Daughters Gertrude Marie (1911)
and Frances Magdalene (1913-1995) they moved to a farm purchased near
Hendricks, Minnesota. Born there were Marie Antoniette (1917) and Margaret
Helen (1920).

Gertrude married Frank Anton Walter in (1938). 2 Children Frank Joseph
(1939) and Frances Ann (1944)
Frances married Vern King (1932). 2 Children Lynne Luhmann (1942) and James
Frederick (1946)
Marie married Glenn Ablett (1935). 3 Children Kay Frances (1937-1939),
Connie Lea (1939) and Keith Luhmann (1941)
Margaret married Don Earwood (1940). 4 Children Fred Russell (1941), Nancy
Luh (1949), Donald Edgar (1952) and Terry E. (1955)

Dora married Oscar Matice. 2 Children Clarence and Farlow. Dora later
married Kamill Friemel.

Carl married Eva Hall (1892-1922). 2 children Avis Darlyne and Eva Doryl
(1922-1922) Carl married Nellie Woodcock in 1926. Adopted daughter Verda

Lena married Edward Perry. 2 sons Carle E and Jack L.

If this information is helpful to you, please let me know. I could go a
little farther down the line.

I just started looking into my family history. All 4 of my grandparents were
born in Germany.
................ My Aunt Gert is also related to the Vogels and
Taslers thru her marriage to Frank Walter.

Medford, Oregon 97504
Sent: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 21:24:09 EDT

There is more to come.
jo arootdigger

Tuesday, August 26, 2008

Is there Humor on a tombstone?

A few days ago I fell into reviewing some cemetery listings of rural Minnesota in the southern region.
As I was scanning a stone heading, I had to take a second look. [I made up the name to something like mine to save the real people.]

Sarah Jane [Sucker] Meyer beloved wife. year 1851- 1895
John Doe Meyer beloved Husband 1850-1900.
Now I saw the name Sucker posted further on, so I know it was not cruelty or bad humor.

Is that funny? It struck me that way on the day that I saw it. I mean is there humor in it, if it is on a head stone?. What do you think? what could have been funnier would if there had been something on the husbands tombstone. I guess it would have to be a fantastic last name or middle name, right? I am not sure what that would be.

Email me.

I read this tombstone joke, while browsing and I enjoyed it so much, I have to tell it.

A young boy was given the name Odd by his parents for some odd reason. When he was young, the other children used to tease him, because of his name. Later still, in high school and college, he was picked on, bullied, harassed because of his name. Even as an adult at work, he was still picked on for his name. So one day in his elder years, he informed his wife that he hated his name. He told her that he did not want his name on his tombstone because he hated it so much. He said he did not want to be remembered by that name. His wife had listened to him, so when it came time for his burial his loving wife did as he asked. She put only his birth date and the death date and left off his name.

It was viewed by many people visiting the cemetery. Often people who would be walking by his tombstone often stopped to look at it and make the same comment. "Isn't that odd?".

Wednesday, August 20, 2008

My Discovery: Going Down Range: Metz

Remember, I have mentioned that Juergen Heinrich Wilhelm Meyer was taken prisoner at Metz, France. So, I want to share that I found a blog written there. Seeing these gorgeous blogs makes me think I bought the wrong camera. Such great pictures.I am so glad they want to share their pictures.
Going Down Range: Metz

Monday, August 18, 2008

Digger into Genealogy branch of Luhmann

Copyright from Farnhamville Centennial book
written April 13,2012

It is my understanding that Meyer went to Lohrville first in 1884. Also I think the Ernest Friedrich Luhmann family did as well. There may be others of the family that lived there that I am unaware of. I think that Fred Meyer at Churdan helped set him up according to the promise. Later after finances were fixed the family could settle where they wanted. The Meyers attended the St. Peters church of Farnhamville area. The Luhmanns did not.

Imagine how happy Fred must have been to finally see family again after fifteen years of not having seen William or the Luhmanns. It is strange though, that there are not many pictures of Meyer mixing with Luhmann. I am curious why that would have been. Not much mentioned in the Meyer book at all. Just a few pictures and mention of the mother.??

Some of the Luhmanns looked like Meyer children.

Ernest Luhman [Familie] Family Tree

Taken from the Farnhamville Centennial book

Calhoun county  Luhmann from Bleckede - Dahlenburg

Because I could not go to Germany and research I was able to attain a professional genealogist by the name of Friedrick Burmester of Bleckede. he would do this at a discount for me one time. I had so much information that I wanted. It was a hard choice. I was working on the Luhmnan of Farnhamville at the time, so I chose that family. I really wanted to see if they were related to ours. And they were. Peggy Luhman of Oregon confirmed it. 
And  then Her grandmother had asked for the Luhman address, so that she could write to them. [I never heard, if she actually did it or not.]  
Friedrich Burmester sent me  several handwritten  pages. Some written the old way in handwriting. I still have not entirely translated all of it. Some of it verifies information that I received from the good citizen of Niedersachen...Herr Kregel about the Luhmann family.

Our Luhmann Descendant

Heinrich Luhmann from Nahrendorf

jo arootdigger

Heins, Heinz Links of Genealogy of a Rootdigger: a rootdigger

I have just created two other blogs.
. I have done this, because I think the Heinz- Heins will need one of its own. There is so much to show.
. One of the others connected to this blog is Life on Sunnyslope farm. Mostly family pictures, clippings, family stories, that I might obtain or already have to share. It might be a way to pertain to Iowan relation. With Questions, probably.

I have not put ads on those. I am not sure about that issue. Mostly because I still edit and rearrange quite alot. I am still in the student stage of being a blogger.

Juergen Heinrich Wilhelm Meyer married Maria Dorothea Heins from Bergen kries Celle in another area of the Luneburg Stadt so I started another blog mostly dedicated to that Bergen Celle and Soltau, Fallingbostel, which is area west of Uelzen,Bleckede and the Goehrde land. Much further east than the east side of the Elbe river. You can see it at this link.
Genealogy of a rootdigger: 11.) Peter Heins Of Siddernhausen mit frau MOJELKEN of Hucksal: "11.) Peter Heins Of Siddernhausen mit frau MOJELKEN of Hucksal.

I havediscovered that I made an genealogical error with these ANCESTORS of Maria Dorothea ( Heins ) Meyer" And I will need to get back there and mend the errors. that data is all correct, just the direct lineage is wrongly protrayed

Saturday, August 16, 2008

Links to links - Taeger - Genealogy [ von Nahrendorf]

I am feeling good about the link. It's worth a look and I would like it to be clickable.
I really am thrilled to find a blogger in Nahrendorf. And are Taeger. I only have a maybe Taeger in my family. But I do have a name. Williams child - Wilhelmina held connections to the possibility of the Taeger name. It is posted a little ways back.

 I posted this information, as I discussed the godparents of his children. The name was Dorothea Elisabeth Taeger, a Hauslers frau at Nahrendorf. Other surname were Konau, Meyer at Sammatz, and Burmester. I do have Luhmann located at Sammatz as well. It is good blog. Check it out.

I may have to learn how to attach his link, when there is no tag "create a link"

So click on the title.

Links to Links - Churdan, Iowa

Chugiak Post: Churdan Quasquicentennial. I had hoped to attend this event. But it didn't work out. I am so glad to be able to have this link attached to mine. The pictures are really great. It almost seems like I did actually attend.

Chugiak Post: Churdan Quasquicentennial

Iowan Barn Quilts links to Community Family crafts

This male blogger from North Carolina is interested in the quilting art. I for one, am so glad to see this posting about the quilts in Farnhamville. If I had not seen the pictures that he has posted; I would not have believed that the people of our Farnhamville actually have the quilts on their buildings. Wonderful.
See for yourself.
Barn Quilt Memories: Farnhamville, Iowa

Friday, August 8, 2008


a rootdigger
I have this Direction sign and you can see, I don't know the answer. I know which way is East!
Can anyone help?

THE CHURCH at NAHRENDORF Many of our ancestors and their spouses came from Oldendorf by Nahrendorf and other villages near by. Many of them in the surrounding area attended that same church in Nahrendorf. Okay, I can't put all the villages on this pole, so we'll just have to 'make do' with Nahrendorf on the post.

Since you might be interested in some residents of Nahrendorf in those days of our Ancestor Meyer; I decided to post a scan of the page of Nahrendorf's hofs and kotes that had I received from a friend taken from Hch. Borstelman's book "Beitraege zu Hof und familiengeschichte des aelten Bleckede".[The link is just a place that mentions it.]
This is a record of Hof three at Nahrendorf.

Borstelmann's work sent from Germany
I see the print remained a little small. I shall see, if I can redo it soon a bit larger. My scanner and Printer is misbehaving the last couple of days, so I think I should avoid using them. We'll see in a bit. I'll see, if I can transcribe it and put that here. [I may not get every word, but close.] I will see, if I can round up more of the hof records for Nahrendorf. Hof 2.

In the early years we had The Brese member joining the Luhmann family at Eichdorf from Nahrendorf. And it again with Anne Maria Reinecke's mother. Anna Maria Reinecke, who was also from Nahrendorf. There were others.

I may have to explain more about the information in the book at another time. You may know in the hof records, we may only see the male landowners names.When the son takes over the farm it usually mentions who his wife is as he does so. Usually it is the first born male's name of the next of kin who takes ownership. Unless there is a death or the first born son has made some other choice. Which I doubt he would do. In later years they could immigrate. In any case the other children either stay and do work for the eldest; or maybe bring income home from labor elsewhere. Many times they don't want to be under the rule of the eldest. So they leave home and take on the role of shepherd or some other occupation that they can learn the skill. Other occupations such as Schumacher, Schneider or something with a guild is not easily acquired. One needs to know the effect of the rules of inheritance/ marriages and how it involve those who lived at the Hofs.
When I understand the customs of inheritance a little then at least I can predict or imagine the outcomes. It all helps to find family.

A good example of the Meyer/Luhmann family and their heritage is to be seen at the page on the HalbHof 2 in Eichdorf;. Now it is a part of Nahrendorf territory but it is shown on a different page. The Land was handed down through the family. One can learn more by following the church records than that little paragraph that Heinrich Borstelmann has of Eichdorf. Though the two together is good. Often some information I relay/share with you will contain information as a result of some custom or inheritance.

I find it feeds my imagination about my ancestors to learn all those little helpful tidbits of info that went with their lives. Such as what choices the older men and women folks had, when their sons took over or when their spouse passed. I am always glad to pick up information like this that people want to share with me.?? [Hint]

Well, this is enough of reading between the lines for me. You can read what ever you want into the evidence that I have presented today. Evidence of Land owners of Hof 3 in Nahrendorf; or my little musings about the families.
I welcome questions and comments, corrections and shares. Email me - arootdigger[at] jo

.edited post 1/29/12

Monday, August 4, 2008

I am Taking Photos from this Beat up Old Meyer Book, Lets See Who's first

Beat up old Meyer book

Hmmm the book was new to me,  when I got it. Hot off the home assembly  by a relative.

I will forever appreciate it. God bless them.

Saturday, August 2, 2008

Subbert, Lusman, Gollwitzer, Meyer, Luhmann of the Family Tree.

Please report any errors to me that you see on this page.

Direct Descendants of
1. HEINRICH CHRISTOPH MEYER [and no name spouse.]

2 Johann Jurgen Meyer.
. 00-Maria Elisabeth Behrens .
. 3 Jurgen Heinrich Friedrich Meyer.
b: *1814 Neetzendorf, Lived Eichorf after his marriage and
d: +at Oldendorf an der Goehrde, Niedersachen, Deutschland.
..... 00-Katharina Margarethe Luhmann.
b: *January 26, 1818 Eichdorf, Luneburg, Lower Saxony Germanyd: +1856 Germany.
..... 4 Jurgen Heinrich Friedrich Meyer.
b: *December 09, 1851 Oldendorf an der Goehrde, Germany.
d: +September 25, 1918 Lombard, Illinois.[] Greene county, Iowa.
......... 00-Mary D. Schenk.
b: *April 20, 1861 Bleckede Hannover, Germany.
d: +April 26, 1916 Greene County, Iowa.......... 5 Lulu Elise Meyer.
b: *October 27, 1889 Greene County, Iowa.
d: +November 17, 1966 Farnhamville, Iowa.
............. 00-Henry Adam Gollwitzer
b: *April 10, 1891 Chicago, Illinois
d: +February 23, 1973 Perry, Iowa............. 6 Audrey Mae Gollwitzer
b: *July 07, 1921 Churdan, Iowa................. 00-Verl Raymond Subbert:
b: *1926 Lidderdale, Iowa................. 7 Lynn Allen Subbert:
b: *1940's
..................... 00-Marsha Louise Lusmann
b: *1940's
.................... 8 Nathan Subbert
b: *1976 Lake City, Iowa...............................................................................
Information supplied by Subbert family

Ancestors of Nathan Subbert from Subbert family

Generation No. 1

1. Nathan Subbert He was the son of 2. Lynn Allen Subbert and 3. Marsha Lusmann.

Generation No. 2

2. Lynn Allen Subbert, born *1947. He was the son of 4. Verl Raymond Subbert and 5. Audrey Mae Gollwitzer. He married 3. Marsha Louise Lusmann, 1971 in Farnhamville, Iowa
3. Marsha Louise Lusmann, born 1948.

Children of Lynn Subbert and Marsha Lusmann is:
1 i. Nathan Subbert, born *1976 in Lake City, Iowa
Jason Subbert, born *1973 in Olwein, Iowa

Generation No. 3

4. Verl Raymond Subbert, born *1926 in Lidderdale, Iowa. He married 5. Audrey Mae Gollwitzer January 13, 1946 in Churdan, Iowa.
5. Audrey Mae Gollwitzer, born *July 7, 1921 in Churdan, Iowa. She was the daughter of 10. Henry Adam Gollwitzer and 11. Lulu Elise Meyer.

Children of Verl Subbert and Audrey Gollwitzer are:
2 i. Lynn Allen Subbert, born *1947;
married Marsha Lusmann.
ii. Kathy Louise Subbert, born *February 1950's married Michael A. Hawkins; born 1951.
iii. Mary Jo Subbert, born *March 1955; married Larry Moll (date?) born (date?)

Children of Michael Hawkins and Kathy Subbert are:1. Rebecca
2. Bryant
3. Bethany
Kathy has since divorced and remarried Michael Fort (date?)

Children of Larry Moll and Mary Jo Subbert are:
1. Jennifer
2. Thomas

He said

"I can get complete information for the children of Verl and Audrey and their
offspring a little later. I don’t know my cousins well enough to give complete
information. I’ll try to get that a little later. If you have any more loose
ends that you think I may be able to help with… let me know and I’ll see what I
can do. "

Note 1: A Heinrich Mosel with wife Emma was on same ship the Luhmann family from Bleckede, who settled around Farnhamville, Ia. Subbert, Saucke is part of their family.

Note 2: Since I am editing this now in 2012 there has been more uptodate information found for this Meyer family since the original posting of this post. I won't tell you those updates at this time.

This is basically a appetizer for the family. More with
Mosel, Borchert,Saucke, Lusmann, Gollwitzer.


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