Old Memories, Old pages of documents, Old blog pages from Family history research

Digging into old pages digs up old memories, which prompts me for older stories and data of Leestahl.

Whatever the motivation I thought I would share this immigration family Saucke from Leestahl. It could come in handy, when I do a few mini series about Jahnke, Rappaul.

This was found at AIDA.

These are the particulars.

Hauptstaatsarchiv Hannover: Sonderfindbücher

Bestellnummer:

Hann. 74 Bleckede W Reg. II Loc. 5 H Nr. 63

Bestandsbezeichnung:

Auswanderer

Signatur:

Nr. 63

Lagerungsbestand: Gesperrt bis:

Hann. 74 Bleckede W Reg. II Loc. 5 H

Laufzeit/Nebenlaufzeit:

. . - . . ( . . - . . )

Teilprovenienz: Vorprovenienz:

Klassifikationskennzahl:

00.16. . . . Sauke, Heinrich Wilhelm

Registratursignatur: Alte Archivsignatur:

Band: Umfang:

Restaurierbedürftigkeit: Trägermaterial:

Titel:

1. SAUCKE,  Heinrich Wilhelm, Dahlenburg 2. 05. 09. 1847, Leestahl 4. Sauke, Johann Heinrich; Sauke, Dorothea Elisabeth, geb. SCHWABE 7. Toledo/Nordamerika 8. 03. 07. 1867 10. ältester Bruder Sauke, Johann dort; bittet dringend darum, daß sein Bruder kommt, da er ihn in seinem Schlachtbetrieb braucht; er selbst hat vor kurzem THIELE, Bertha geheiratet, die mit ihren Eltern vor 5 Jahren aus Berlin dorthin auswanderte; Eltern haben inzwischen eine große Färberei; er selbst will sich diesen Sommer ein Haus bauen und hat in seinen Betrieb gerade 700 Taler für eine Dampfmaschine zum Fleischhacken (1000 Pfund in 3 Stunden) investiert (Brief des Sauke, Johann vom 27. 03. 1867 liegt bei)

Quickborn, the land, Hofs landlords family History

The following Post transcript is actually taken and google translated from pages 99- 101 of the following book :-
DAHLENBURG
Streifzrüge durch die Geschichte von Charlotte Wodaege
Herausgeber : Museumsverein Dahlenburg 1989

Sometimes in the case of translation about property the word Court represents the land or farm patch of land.

The surnames like Burmester and Burmeister, Jacobs, are very common names throughout many villages. Often connecting them. I also have Jacobs at Barskamp with Steinbach with family history running through Bargmoor, and other villages of Bleckede. Other surnames of Schlicht, Mueller. I am not sure yet of concrete ties to Burmester or Burmeister. I have one name, but instead of being Burmester, it might be Burmeister. So I am unsure if it ties.

1.3.2- Quickborn [pp.99]

QUICKBORN means living source.
1562 were recorded in the church records a "Jurate Lutje Zolee". Every court in 1618 provided 104 days a year service manual was used, "two days a week with the handt is Schillingsgut give treasure, rent money and is no freedom." {Kr Arch 96 / 3 - 26 / 11-160 / 13]
1667 registered Rev. Antonio BURMEISTER 4 landlord, prior to 5 Thirty Years War Interest on money for the church paid only three shillings Dietrich STOLTE, other names not recorded, the church history.
1651 "The village has been lying very desolate, but it has taken etzliche hooves again and built partly -1799 6 Hh-, Ki. Dahlenburg, "quoted Henry BORSTELMANN. The 6 Hh, ie half yards, which came after Pröve inheritances were probably due to the Church [Ki], "subject". The following landlords have sat on these courts after Borstelmann:
"Halbhof 1. 1675 Balzer BURMESTER. 1686 Eh. Hans BURMESTER betweenEngel REIMER from Barskamp; 1689 Otto SEEDORF born Seedorf [Wwe.] Ilsabe SEEDORF born SCHROEDER from Dahlenburg; 1698 Eh. with Dor. Marg KRUSE. 1699 Hinr. KOENIG [eh Hans BURMESTER], and 1709th 1719 Franz BURMESTER, still 1779th 1786 Eh. between Johan Hinrich SAUCKE, Son of HSW. Hans Juergen SAUCKE in Dumstorf, and Marg Elisb. BURMESTER, daughter Francis of reinforced [E.]. 1789 TOLLSCHNIBBE class. [kl.] 1799 Johan Hinrich SAUCKE. 1803 Eh. between Johan Hinrich SAUCKE and Dor. Elis. Stäger from Wendhausen. 1819 Eh. Johan Hinrich Christoph Saucke son of Hh. Johan Heinrich SAUCKE, [Stiefs] Stepson of Dor. Elisabeth STEGEN, and Anne Sophie Elisabeth GERCKEN, Daughter of George Gercken of Riebrau. the George T. [Riebrau in AMT. Hitzacker] [Ue. spaeter - later].
Halbhof 2. 1675 John BURMEISTER. 1699 Hans BURMEISTER, Joachims Son, and 1709th 1719 Hans BRUEGGEMANN [before Hans Burmeister], and 1727th 1739 Jürgen Lühr nor 1759th 1754 Eh. between Hans Otto Bünck [BUENCK], son of the cowherder in OITZ or Oitzen [Kr Uelzen], and Anne Ilsabe LUEHRS. 1769 Otto Buenck
1769 Eh. between Joh Friedr. Lühr, and Otto Bünck widow [Wwe] Anna Ilsabe née Bargmann; 1771 Eh. between Marg. Dor. STEINBOCK from Vindorf. 1779 Johan Friedrich LUEHR, also in 1789 and 1799th
Halbhof 3. 1675 Henry SAUTJE. 1699 John ABBOT [ABT.] [eh. Hinrich SAUTJE] nor 1719th ..........?1725 Eh. between John Henrich ABT and Marie Dor. Schop Daughter of Peter Schop in that area [ das]. 1727 Hans ABT. 1739 Johan ABT, noch 1759. 1761 Eh. between Jürgen Christoph PERAU of Dahlem and Johann Henrich ABT's Wwe. Cath Marg born BURMESTER [E.]. 1776 Eh. between Hans Jürgen LINNE [LINDE], of Bankewitz in Amt. Bodenteich and Kath. Maria ABT [E.]
1789 Hans Juergen LINDE , auch 1799. 1809 Eh. between Johann Hinrich Linde, Son of Hans Jürgen Linde and [s.] Eh. Kath Maria geb. Abt and Dor. Elisabeth TAEDER, Daughter of Hinrich Ludolf Taeder in Nahrendorf.
Halbhof 4 1675 Michel Raßeburg. 1681 Eh. between Hans Ratzeborch Kath. GERSTENKORN, the Daughter of Diedr. GERSTENKORN [See paternal. Court]. 1699 Hans Raßeburg [eh Michel], and 1709th 1719 Franz Ratzeburg [ before Hans], noch 1739th 1750 Eh. between Jürgen Gerstenkorn from Buendorf and Dietr. Schulzen Wwe. Marie Kath. born Strachau; 1759 Eh. with Cath Marg Bartels, Daughter of Juergen BARTELS in the village of Ellringen. 1759 Jürgen GERSTENKORN. 1768 Eh. between Heinrich Chr. THAEDER from Quickborn and Marie Elis. Kath JACOBS, Daughter of Johan Jürgen JACOBS in the Dumstorf. 1769 Hinrich GERSTENKORN. 1779 Franz Henrich TAEGEDER. 1782 Eh. between Franz Jürgen GERSTENKORN, stepfather, Hans Chr TAEDER, and Dor. Elis. HAMBURG of Ricklingen. 1789 Franz Jürgen GERSTENKORN. 1801 Eh. BETWEEN Jürgen Hinrich Minrich of Niendorf Amt. Medingen, and Kath. Sophie GERSTENKORN, Daughter of Hh. Franz Jürgen GERSTENKORN. [E., Ue. ] after 6 years. 1834 Eh. between the prospective Hh. Jürgen Heinrich Mennerich & c. Eh. Kath Sophie nee GERSTENKORN, and Dor. Elisabeth Rappaul from Vindorf. [The oldest Son waives his Anerbenrecht to Hh. in favor of younger, Ue]..
Halbhof 5 ?1621 Eh. between Paul RUNNE and Anne BURMEISTER in Quickborn, the former takes on the wild Burmeister's court. 1699 Hans BURMESTER, Son of Hinrich BURMESTER, on Stolten court also 1709th 1710 Eh. between Hinrich SEEDORF and Kah. Marg BARTELS, Daughter of Juergen Bartels of Ellringen {Ue. soon by the Stiefv.}. 1719 Hinrich SEEDORF [before Hans Burmeister], noch 1759th 1769 Franz Jürgen SEEDORF. 1771 Eh. between Hans Henrich SCHULTE from Mücklingen Anne Elisabeth LUEHR, the mayor or Schulzen Wwe. SEEDORF. 1779 Hans Heinrich SCHULTZ. 1788 Eh. between Frederick Menrich from Niendorf, Amt. Medingen, and Kah Dor. EXP. [verw.] SEEDORF [E., J. W. 20]. 1789 Johann Hinrich Mennerich. 1799 Johann Friedrich Mennerich. 1834 Henry Mennerich takes over his father's. Yard.
Halbhof 6th 1675 yard waste. 1699 Reimer Raßeburg nor 1727; desolate 1739th 1749 Simon Hueter; 1759 and 1769 Wwe. 1779 George Wilh. Hueter, or 1799th 1823 George Wilh. Hueter passes the Hh. p. Son Wilh.Chr. Hueter. " [72]
Besides the division of the commons and the coupling of the arable fields were in the 19 Century saw the replacement of the manorial descents. This. Detachment found in all German states, in every village communities, where farmers were subject to duty. The severance konnetn done by cession of land by paying a cash sum or a pension. The strain was variable and depended on the amount of the obligations, we converted it into a pension and was replace by the payment of 25 times the amount of the annuity, and later even 18 times the amount. It happened that in the Peasant villages served various lords and therefore afford to have different charges.
This duty of loyalty of the peasants for centuries corresponded to the fiduciary duty of the gentleman who had to care such as home fires for the construction of the property, etc.. After the dissolution of human bonds of the farmer was free, but now had to operate according to its discretion.

Source:
Dahlenburg book by Charlotte Wodaege. Copyright edition. No permission is  given to copy her pages.

Surname - Vogel Family From Farnhamville, Iowa

Surname connection of the VOGEL family from Bohemia, Illinois, and Iowa

Taken from book which  given to me by genealogist

I wasn't always arootdigger at Genealogy or family history research!
I was clearing out a box from my mother back in 2001, and laid my hands on a leather pouch with some potentially useful documents and clippings, which raised my thinking to full glory curiosity. I said to myself. just maybe, I could browse the names on those papers and see if I could see what was involved in online genealogy searches. So self said - "find out".[ Oh yes, I do talk to myself] So I ran downstairs to find out immediately on the computer.


I supposeyou haave seen the Ancestry and family history ads online so had I only there were less then. So I thought why not go into it and see what the various ancestry websites had and make some posts even though I only had a little data to go on. Which many other Genealogists seem to resent. But don't let that stop you. I stopped to read a few genealogy sites from the famous Cyndi's website when the need arose.

Long story short, that little start led me to my mentor Berniece JAESCHKE and Tom VOGEL, whom was interested in my Grandmother Annie SEIL and August, her father or grandfather's wife Anna UMLAUF of the VOGEL family. It was through his work that I saw the basics, the pitfalls, and gained the understanding of how they fell in with his Vogel tree. .


Because of that tiny research, I then understood why my father/grandfather kept the special clippings that he had in his leather pouch. A leather pouch of only a few documents, which was valuable in my research. As I was searching, I added a couple miscellaneous clippings I found scattered through the box from my mother. So now I am unsure which ones I added and which papers were there originally. That tiny research project I began that day, grew into the vast interest I have for all those surnames you see repeatedly here at arootdigger. Surnames and places about my ancestor's families at Farnhamville church of Iowa, told here again and again and at my Oldendorf and Nahrendorf Website.
My websites which, I began to share with you for the first time in 2008 at the first week of May.

Over these years as arootdigger blogger of MEYER and SEIL family history research, I have been so grateful for my mothers hoarding history of anything on paper. Like everyone else in this hobby, I just wish I had kept a few more pieces that I thought did not pertain to the family. I guess that is why meaningful old family PHOTOS AND MEMENTOS end up in antique stores.

So I try to learn more about the VOGEL Family Tree History in Iowa, as well as their home country Bohemia and Czech Republic, whenever I can. You noticed in last post that the Saucke family were linked to the Vogel family. So above is another page from a book about Farnhamville families that deals with the Vogel family. The other half of that page about the SAUCKE family is on the previous post.




Note: I have made a few posts here at arootdigger before about that Vogel family involvement of the family. Time and time again you have noticed, that I have mentioned that I have not found the Dohrman or Vogel on the census at Joliet. It needs to be said, I sure wish I could. A future project again some day, when it rains or too hot outside; when I am not being a rootdigger in some other capacity. [ at one time I had Tom's website at the bottom of the page, but hes evidently made some changes.  I'll see if I can find it again. Or one like it.]

Trips to the Old Country

It is my greatest Dream to visit the churches of the old country of my grandparents and those other colonists of Farnhamville, Calhoun County Iowa. If I did so though, I'd have to stay more than a week!

I reread the postcard in the letter that Mr. Stein sent when he sent me the postcard from the Kannings from the Nahrendorf church. There was a note or letter behind the card! Reading it, I saw that he himself did not get the information, as I may have said somewhere at A Rootdiggerspot blog. I don't know which Kanning went on the trip to Germany. I am going to find out!

I understand why he did not look up anyone else while there. Schroeder and Saucke were their main interest. You would think though, that they would have checked on Heinrich Seil. Would they have been seeking more of the Saucke family and the Schroeder family? Perhaps their other information was in Dannenburg. Also I am sure time was a factor. The Kanning family are not from this area by the Elbe River. They resided much more west.

Kannings are involved with these surnames of Oldendorf / Nahrendorf and Duebbekold:
Nahnsen/ Meyer, Heinrich Seil [geb. * 1859], Friedrich Schroeder and Elisabeth Saucke.
Possibly Another Seil family at Joliet, Illinois.
I am sure I forgot a few.
I wonder if they also went to see the Dahlenburg church archives. Since Maria Elisabeth Saucke's family also lived at Ahndorf by Boitze and Neetzendorf. [ I suspect connections to Tosterglop and Gut Horn as well.]

I just added the message written on back of the post card from Robert Stein at that site. You can see it here.

Comment : If your a faithful reader of my tree blogging, you may already know that I have another family connection to the village of Duebbekold. It is through the family Luhmann again going back a generations from the gr gr grandmother Catharina Margarethea Luhmann with family of Andreas Gehrke.

Genealogy of the Family of Juergen Friedrich Meyer with Luhmann Ancestors

Here are the church records from the church archives of the Nahrendorf church.
Again I changed very little. No Umlauts yet at this time. Try to pay attention to the surnames of the godparents. they are important. Later on, I asked Herr Bock about some of the Meyer surnames and a few other ones. I will share what he said as soon as I can round it up. It is very interesting and Very important. Also very questionable.

Personenstammblatt v:3
Mandant : 00-Boitze 07.10.94
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MEYER, Juergen Friedrich (M) ev
* 29.11.1814 Neetzendorf = Boitze
~ 30.11.1814 Dahlenburg
Auszug aus dem Taufregister der ev.-luth.
Kirchengemeinde Dahlenburg
Nr. 46/ 1814 -Neetzendorff-
Juergen Friedrich Meyer, geb. d. 29sten
November 1814, Morgens 2 Uhr, get. d. 30 sten
November 1814 in der ersten Advent Woche.
Aeltern: Johann Juergen Meyer,
Schaefer, u. Maria Elisabeth
geb. Behrens aus Neetzendorff.
Gev :
Juergen Friedrich Behrens, Hauswirth in Neetzendorff.
+ 18.09.1879 (R) Oldendorf = Nahrendorf
+-20.09.1879 Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Beerdigungsregister
der ev.-Luth. Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf
Nr. 24/1879
Meyer, Juergen Friedrich, Parkwarter in Roethen,
alt 64 Jarhre 9 Monate 19 tage,
begr. 20. September 1879 in Nahrendorf.
Beruf : Hausw. in Oldendorf.
u. Parkwarter in Roethen.

1. Ehe :
~~18.05.1838 Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Trauregister der
ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf
Nr. 2/1838 -Eichdorf-
Meyer, Juergen Friedrich, Junggesell,
angehender Hausling und
Schaefer zu Neetzendorf, ehel.
Sohn des Schaefers Johann Juergen
Meyer zu Neetzendorf, u. dessen
verstorbener Ehefrau Marie Elisabeth
geb. Behrens, und Jungfer
Katharine Margarethe Luhmann, ehel.
Tochter des Hauswitrths
Johann Juergen Luhmann zu Eichdorf
und Dessen Ehefrau Anne Marie geb. Reinecke.
Procl. zu Nahrendorf
u. Dahlenburg Dom. Jubilate et.
Cantate - cop. d. 18. Mai.

LUHMANN, Catharina Margaretha (F) ev
* 26.01.1818 Eichdorf = Nahrendorf
~ 26.01.1818 Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Taufregister der
ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf
Seite 42/1818 -Eichdorf-
Luhmann, Catharina Margaretha,
Den 26sten Januar, Morgens 3 Uhr,
getauft den 26sten Januar.
Eltern :
Johann Juergen Luhmann, Hauswirth zu
Eichdorf und Anne Maria geb. Reinecke.
Gevattern:
1.) Catharina Elisabeth Bartels, Hauslingsfrau zu Eichdorf,
2.) Margaretha Eliabeth Barthelt, Dienstmagd zu Eichdorf.
+ 1856 Oldendorf + Nahrendorf
+-1856 Nahrendorf

1. Kind MEYER, Katharine Marie Elisabeth (F) ev
* 24.10.1839 Eichdorf = Nahrendorf
~ 26.10.1839 Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Taufregister der
ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf
Nr. 35/1839 -Eichdorf-
Meyer, Katharine Marie Elisabeth,
V.: Juergen Friedrich Meyer,
Hausler in Eichdorf,
M.: Katharine Margarethe geb. Luhmann.
geb. d. 24. octbr, Abends 8 Uhr,
get.d. 26 ejusd.
Taufz. :
1.) Marie Elisabeth Meyer aus Eichdorf,
2.) Marie Luhmann, daher.

2. Kind MEYER, Katharine Margarethe Elisabeth (F) ev
* 02.02.1842 Eichdorf = Nahrendorf
~ 05.02.1842 Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Taufregister der ev.-Luth.
Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf
Nr. 8/1842 -Eichdorf-
Meyer, Katharine Margarethe Elisabeth,
V. : Juergen Friedrich Meyer,
Hausler in Eichdorf,
M.: Katharine Margarethe geb. Luhmann,
Geb. d. 2. Febr.Nachm.
3 Uhr, get. d. 5. ejusd.
Taufz. :
1.) Dorothea Elisabeth Luhmann, Hausw.tochter aus Eichdorf,
2.) Katharine Margarethe Seil, Hauswirthsfrau aus Brese.

3. Kind MEYER, Juergen Heinrich Wilhelm (M) ev
* 07.10.1843 Eichdorf = Nahrendorf
~ 15.10.1843 Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Taufregeister der
ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf
Nr. 32/1843 -Eichdorf-
Meyer, Juergen Heinrich Wilhelm,
V. : Juergen Friedrich Meyer,
Hausler in Eichdorf,
M. : Katharine Margarthe geb. Luhmann,
Geb. d. 7. Octbr. Morgens 6 1/2 Uhr, get d.
15. ejusd.
Taufz. :
1.) Johann Heinrich Seil, Hauswirth in Brese,
2.) Juergen Heinrich Luhmann, Hauswirth in Eichdorf,
3.) Juergen Heinrich Wilhelm Schulz,
Hauswirth in Schutschur
+ Oldendorf = Nahrendorf
+-Nahrendorf

4. Kind MEYER, Katharina Dorothea Elisabeth (F) ev
* 12.09.1845 Eichdorf = Nahrendorf
~ 14.09.1845 Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Taufregister der ev_luth.
Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf
Nr. 40/1845 -Eichdorf-
Meyer, Katharina Dorothea Elisabeth.
V. : Juergen Friedrich Meyer, Hausler in Eichdorf,
M. : Katharine Margarethe geb Luhmann, Geb. d.
12. Septbr. Morgens 5 Uhr get. d. ejusd.
Taufzeugen :
1.) Katharine Margarethe Dorothea Luhmann,
Hauswirthsfrau aus Eichdorf,
2.) Katharine Dorothea Elisabeth Luhmann,
Hauswirthstochter daher.


5. Kind MEYER, Marie Katharine (F) ev
* 27.10.1847 Oldendorf = Nahrendorf
~ 07.11.1847 Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Taufregister der ev.-luth.
Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf
Nr. 38/1847 -Oldendorf-
Meyer, Marie Katharine.
V. : Juergen Friedrich Meyer, Hsw. in Oldendorf,
M. : Katharine Margarthe geb Luhmann, Geb.
d.27. Octbr. Abends 8 Uhr, get d.7. Novbr.
Taufz. :
1.) Marie Elisabeth Schmidt,
Anbauersfrau aus Oldendorf,
2.) Katharine Marie Roehrs aus Oldendorf,
3. )Katharine Dorothea Meyer, Hsw.tochter daher.

6. Kind MEYER, Dorothea Elisabeth (F) ev
* 15.11.1849 Oldendorf = Nahrendorf
~ 19.11.1849 Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Taufregister der
eve.-luth. Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf
Nr. 44/1849 -Oldendorf-
Meyer, Dorothea Elisabeth,
V. : Juergen Friedrich Meyer, Hsw. zu Oldendorf,
M. : Katharine Magdaline geb. Luhmann.
Geb. d. 15. Novbr. Morgens
6 Uhr, get.d. 19. ejusd.
Taufz.:
1.) Anna Marie Elise Ellermann hieselbst,
2.) Katharine Dorothea Wolter aus Oldendorf.

7. Kind MEYER, Juergen Heinrich Friedrich (M) ev
* 09.12.1851 Oldendorf = Nahrendorf
~ 16.12.1851 Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Taufregister der ev.-luth.
Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf
Nr. 51 1851 -Oldendorf-
Meyer, Juergen Heinrich Friedrich,
V. : Juergen Friedrich Meyer, Hsw. in Oldendorf,
M. : Katharine Margarethe geb Luhmann
Geb. d. 9. Decbr. Abends 7 Uhr, get.d.16. ejusd.
Taufz.:
1.) Juergen Friedrich Meyer, *Schulze in Oldendorf,
2.) Johann Juergen Heinrich Saucke, Hsw. daselbst,
3.) Heinrich Friedrich Wolter, Musicus daselbst.

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I would like to spend a little more time going over, who I think the godparents are. Aunts or sisters of the mother, brothers and uncles. Also there are a few unknowns.