Dorothea Luman of Nebraska from zu Eichdorf

Given to me by ms. Merten

The sister of my Catharina Margaretha Luhmann.


Do you love getting church records. I do. It's like getting a gold mine. A reap of information worth their weight in gold.
My Catharina Margaretha Luhmann married Juergen Friedrich Meyer geb.* 1814. + died 1879.
I have the church records of her with her mother and father included. Only one child - Catharina Margaretha was listed. I received this information from the Nahrendorf church through an email. From Herr Bock's research.

It is interesting.
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LUMANN, Johann Juergen (M) eve
* 02.09.1785 Eichdorf = Nahrendorf
~ 04.09.1785 Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Taufregister der ev.-luth.
Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf
seite 101/1785
Johann Juergen Lumann, geb.d. 2ten Sept.,
get. d. 4ten Sept,
Vater: Juergen Heinrich Lumann, angehender Hauswirth in Eichdorf,
Mutter: Catharine Elisabeth Gehrken,
Gevattern:
1.) Johann Juergen Seil, Hauswirth in Oldendorf,
2.) Juergen Ludewig Seil, Brennknecht in Bleckede,
3.) Franz Juergen Gehrke, Hauswirthssohn in Duebbekold.
+ 06.03.1843 Eichdorf = Nahrendorf
+- 09.03.1843 Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Beerdigungsregister der
ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf
Nr. 9/ 1843 - Eichdorf-
Luhmann, Johann Juergen, Hauswirth,
Ehemann von Anne Maria geb Reinecke, und
ehel. Sohn des weil. Juergen Heinrich Luhmann, Hauswirths in Eichdorf. Gest, d.6. Maerz. Nachm. 1 Uhr. Oeffentl. beerdigt d.9. ejusd., Alt 57 J. 6 M. 4 T. Engbruestigkeit u. Blutsturz.
Beruf : Hauswirt in Eichdorf.

1. Ehe :
~~11.11.1809 Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Trauregister der ev.-luth.
Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf
Nr. 10/1809
Luhmann, Johann Juergen, weil.
Juergen Heinrich Luhmann, Hauswirths zu Eichdorf ehel.
Sohn, mit Reinecke, Anna Maria, weil.
Johann Christoph Reinecke, Hauswirths in Nahrendorf ehel.
Tochter, Copulirt am 11.Nov. 1809

REINECKE, Anna Maria (F) ev
* 08.10.1791 Nahrendorf
~ 11.10.1791 Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Taufregister der ev.-luth.
Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf
Seite 114/1791
Anna Maria Reinecke, geb.d. 8ten Oct.,
get.d.11ten Oct.
Vater: Johann Christoph Reinecke, Hauswirth in Nahrendorf,
Mutter: Anna Dorothea Brese.
Gevattern:
1.) Catharina Maria Harwegen, Hauswirthin in Boetze,
2.) Anna Maria Steckelbergen, Hauswirthin in Walmsburg,
3.) Anna Dorothea Luers, Hauswirthin in Finndorf.
+ 02.12.1867 Eichdorf = Nahrendorf
+- 06.12.1867 Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Beerdigungsregister der ev.-luth.
Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf
Nr. 35/1867 - Eichdorf-
Luhmann, Anna Maria, Wittwe des Hauswirths
Heinrich Christoph Luhmann in Eichdorf,
alt 76 Jahre 1 Monat 24 Tage.
Eltern: Hauswirth Johann Christoph Reinecke in Nahrendorf
und dessen Ehefrau Anna Dorothee geborene Breese,
gest.den zweiten December Abends neun Uhr
an Altersschwaeche, begr.den 6. December 1867.
(Vorname des verstorbenen Ehemannes richtig nicht Heinrich Christoph, sondern Johann Juergen.

1. Kind LUHMANN,Catharina Margaretha (F) ev.
* 26.01.1818 Eichdorf = Nahrendorf
~ 26.01.1818 Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem taufregister der ev.-luth.
Kirchengemeinde Nahendorf
Seite 42/1818 -Eichdorf-
Luhmann, Catharina Margarethea, Den 26sten Januar,
Morgens 3 Uhr, getauft den 26sten Januar.
Eltern: Johann Juergen Luhmann,
Hauswirth zu Eichdorf, und Anna Maria geb Reinecke.
Gevattern:
1.) Catharinea Elisabaeth Bartels,
Hauslingsfrau zu Eichdorf,
2.) Margaretha Elisabeth Barthelt,
Dienstmagd zu Eichdorf.
+ 30.04.1856 Roethen = Nahrendorf
+- 03.05.1856 Nahrendorf
Auszug aus dem Beerdigungsregister der
ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde Nahrendorf
Nr. /

GENprofi Familienforschung
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I think, I am missing the burial record number at the end. It will take me some time to find the original copy to see, if it was there, or just cut off. I do believe this record was emailed to me from the Nahrendorf church. Of course it was done by Herr Bock. He had not remembered my name as the one, who had requested the information before. So he had resent the records that I already had. It was too bad, cause I bet my records arrived a day or two later after he sent me the email of information. I had hoped to save him from having to look up something that he had already done a few years back.

It is interesting that the family name spelling starts out as Lumann. You know Mrs Schlaphof[f] also went by the spelling Luman. At least, that is how she is named at the cemetery. I did translate the church records. But, I have forgotten what I learned. So, I won't be able to use that translation for you right now. I will come back and do so. As soon as I get a chance.

Note: My other records Of the Luhmann family have already informed us of Johann Juergen Luhmann's parents. They were Juergen Heinrich Lumann and Catharina Elisabeth Gehrke. Johann Juergens godparents were his fathers sisters husbands. However, in older records the Seil family was mentioned as being from Lueben and Breese.

[ I haven't made any connections yet between those Seil and any other Seil name I have acquired. None of those in Iowa. Not Henry Seil, who married Marie Ahrens nor August William Seil, who married Annie Vogel.
Not Annie Seil, who married Herman Meyer.

The Gehrke son's marriage to Luhmann is the first time that I have seen the Gehrke name mentioned in my history of Luhman, or any of my Meyer ancestors. I think his father was Andreas Gehrke. [Previous post].
Note: We will see this information in the village of Duebbekold in Heinrich Borstelmans book.

It is interesting to me that Anna Maria's mother is a Brese from Nahrendorf. In the very early years there was a marriage to Luhmann by name Brese or Brase from Nahrendorf.

Notice the place of residence for Catharina Maria Harwegen is "Boetze". That is how it was spelled in the OFB Himbergen book written by Heinrich Porth and gunda Friesch. Bötze. We have been assuming it is suppose to be the same as Boitze, which is very close to Neetzendorf. As is Ahndorf, Finndorf or Findorf.

The god parents info has been a surprise. Ms. Harwegen is probably Harweg[e]. If I go back to Behrens - Meyer records, I will find a Harwege.

4. Kind: BEHRENS, Margaretha Magdalena (F] ev
* 16.05.1772 Neetzendorf = Boitze
~ 17.05 1772 Dahlenburg
Auszung aus dem Taufregister der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde Dahlenburg
Nr. 22 /1772
Margaretha Magdalena Behrens, Johann Juergen Behrens, Hauswirths in Neetzendorff, und Cathrina Dorothea Schultzen ehel. Tochter, is am 16ten May gebohren, getauft am 17ten.
Die Gevaattern sind:
1.) Margaretha Ilsabe Harweges,
2.) Anna Margareta Niebuhrs,
3.) Margaretha Magdalena Schultzen.

Probably a daughter of those.
Notice the Luers. In Behrens records a mention was of Luhrs.

And then we see this :

Eltern: Hauswirth Johann Christoph Reinecke in Nahrendorf
und dessen Ehefrau Anna Dorothee geborene Breese,
gest.den zweiten December Abends neun Uhr
an Altersschwaeche, begr.den 6. December 1867.
(Vorname des verstorbenen Ehemannes richtig nicht Heinrich Christoph, sondern Johann Juergen

It seems to switch husbands on me. I shall have to get a little help on that one from babelfish - Yahoo?
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt

Parents: Hauswirth Johann Christoph Reinecke in Nahrendorf and its wife Anna Dorothee born Breese, gest. den second December of evening nine o'clock at age weakness, 6th December begr. den 1867. (First name of the deceased of husband correctly not Heinrich Christoph, but Johann Juergen).

It is amazing that church records could make a recording in the books of the wrong spouse to a woman!!! wow!

I might have to go through my Luhmann records transcribed from the church archives records by Herr Kregel; and see if it is recorded any different from this. I don't believe there are any errors at that spot.

I just love church records. I went through this one briefly to cover the little details. Soon, I would like to cover some of the same surnames. As a result of this church document, I am now thinking that the Johann Juergen Meyer family and the residence members of the Behrens family [hauswirths] at Neetzendorf had contact and connections with hauswirths at Eichdorf. After all Landowners sons had to marry other landowners daughters. If the ones are all taken at your village, wouldn't you have to look to other villages?

That's enough for the day.
Thanks for hanging in there.
just me,
JO

Genealogy Genealogie with more of Luhmann - Seil

This is another branch of the Luhmann tree. They share some of the same blood as the Meyer / Luhmann branch. Luhmann, Schlicht. Surnames of this branch off from Luhmann / Seil family. Winkelmann, Schulz, Martens, Soltau, Other.

I know this tree chart will begin to be a little confusing. I will try my best to help.

Remember the members of the Luhmann family. Generation two or three is about the time our Schultze /Behrens about 1700. After 1803 the Meyer come on the scene in Neetzendorf, Boitze /and Bleckede area with Meyer. Meyer joining the Luhmann family at year 1838. This little comparison was done by Herr Soltau whose wife had the connection. Not published anywhere that I know. I only received the direct line, nothing of other siblings. Before I could think to ask he was off to somewhere else.
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Luhmann family chart
III. Jürgen Luhmann ∞ Clara Margaretha Schultze or Schultz.
Children or Kinder:
Christian Friedrich,
Anthon Frantz [ shepherd at Bostelwiebeck],
Dorothea Maria,
Heinrich Jürgen,
Johann Peter [*1721-oo 9 juli 1751 lived in Breese],
Hans Jürgen 1722 - Bostelwiebeck,
Catharina Margaretha,
Valentin[Muller],

IV. Valentin Luhmann ∞ 2.10.1752 Catharine Sophia Müller
Also maybe with (∞ 1757 Agnese Jahnke ? – copy „Eichdorf, Halbhof 2“)

Kinder:
Jürgen Heinrich,
Anna Dorothea Sophia,
Anna Margaretha,
Catharina Elisabeth ( md landowner in Oldendorf nov 15, 1782-Frd. Wilhelm Ries],
Elisabeth Margarethe,
Maria Magdalena, Anna Margaretha,
Johann Friedrich Luhmann*

V. Kinder Jürgen Heinrich Luhmann ∞ 19.11.1784 Catharina Elisabeth Gehrke from Duebbekold.
Kinder: V1. Johann Jürgen oo Reinecke, Catharina Elisabeth [00 Johann Juergen Bartels Eichdorf, Margarethe Magdalena Luhmann[00 Juergen Christp. Hch Seil of Breese],

V1. Kinder of Gehrke and Luhmann, Catharina Maria Luhmann
∞ 11.11.1809
Jürgen Friedrich Seil /Luben

V11. Kinder:
Johann Friedrich Seil
oo - 12.04.1859 Bleckede
oo- Anne Katharine Dorothea Schulz

In this same generation Johann Jurgen Luhmann had married Reinecke and had his daughters who married at Schutshur to Pagel and Schulz. Another sister Cath Dor. Elisabeth born 1825 md Joh Juergen Bartels. Another md Schlaphof emg. to Nebraska. Son Christoph md. Anna Dor Elsb Meier at Ventschau. Catharina Margarethea md Jurgen Frd. Meyer with descendents went to Iowa.. [It is possible One of these Sisters or sister =in-laws md Mollemann went to Galena Illinois. Then md to Ahrens.]

kinder: of Johann Frd. Seil and Schulz
Johann Heinrich Wilhelm Seil
∞ 23.08.1901 in Bleckede
Marie Karoline Wilhelmine Berta Elise Martens

Kinder: Heinrich Friedrich Ernst Seil
oo - ∞ 20.12.1935 in Bleckede
Else Minna Dorothea Winkelmann
Kinder: probably living



note: www.bleckede.com/Firmen/Blumen_Seil/blumen-seil.html

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Note: Cath. Sophia Mueller of Kofahl who lived at Halbhof 2 at Eichdorf. Her father was Mich. Mueller of Kofahl.
They had child generation 1V - Johann Friedrich Luhmann * geb or born 14.07.1768 in Eichdorf. died 19.03.1851 in Bleckede at 83 years old. We think he married twice. His other wife may have been Anna Dorothea Grothe. Or she may have been with his son.
His descendant generation V. -Ernst Friedrich Luhmann *17.03.1811 oo went to Lohrville and Farnhamville church of Iowa.
Surnames of this tree.
Schlicht, Brockmann, Blank, Steinbock, Jacobs, Grothe, Meier, Tippe ?
More later on the two other Trees of Luhmann in this area of Bleckede.

Speculation: Since this tree of Luhmann was in the area of Bleckede..... Dahlenburg area, Is it possible that the Brockmann of the Schlicht family could be connected with the one Brookmann who married Seil of Dahlenburg? There were some involvement with a family Schlicht also from Barskamp. And also a Brockman in that tree. Hof 30 of Oldendorf.

Note: In the same generation that the two sisters married Seil men, there was a sister of that Luhmann family whom married Ries a landowner at Oldendorf. This was before Juergen Friedrich Meyer was born. I am sure the Ries family maybe had something to do with Our Meyer possession of land in Oldendorf. Behrens / Schultze family also married to Riess family and also had a Bartel connection. Behrens / Schultze family through marriage may have been in Eimstorf or Dahlem or Leestahl. [ Hch. Borstelman book]

There are better records of all this in earlier blogs.

**Note: Since the wife of this Friedrich Seil was a Schulz, it could not be the same Seil who went to Farnhamville whose descendent eventually married Pauline Nahnsen. Unless he had married more than once. And it is a Friedrich not a Franc.

[I might add that I have information about at least seven Seil families.]

I am fully prepared to clear up any Questions, if I can. Or at least direct one to other sources.